View Full Version : 2009 NFL Draft in Review
Jimmyd24
01-01-2010, 04:49 PM
Round Pick Player Position
1 30 (30) Britt, Kenny WR
Kenny Britt was a great pick. He has shown this year that he can be a #1 receiver. Is a good run block receiver and has great hands. Finds a way to get open and makes plays.
2 30 (62) Marks, Sen'Derrick DT
I dont know too much about him, have not been able to watch all the games as I live in Florida and am not always in the coverage area. I dont believe he saw too much playing time this year. I have heard some of you refer to him as a project, and if that was the case when drafting, I dont think it is acceptable to draft a 'project' with your second round pick.
3 25 (89) Cook, Jared TE
(From Patriots)
A tight end with amazing speed and has a chance to be a playmaker. Hopefully he will be able to get more playing time next year and be able to make an impact. I am still unsure if it was worth it to trade our 2nd round pick this year. Hopefully he pays off.
3 30 (94) Mouton, Ryan CB
4 30 (130) McRath, Gerald LB
4 35 (135) Kropog, Troy OT
(Compensatory selection)
5 37 (173) Ringer, Javon RB
(Compensatory selection)
6 30 (203) McCourty, Jason CB
6 33 (206) Edison, Dominique WR
(Compensatory selection)
7 30 (239) Durand, Ryan OG
7 33 (242) Schommer, Nick FS
Dont know too much about the rest of him. I have heard you all talk about Ringer some and many of you are excited for him.
Discuss how you feel about the draft and what you would rate it.
MrBean
01-01-2010, 04:56 PM
2 30 (62) Marks, Sen'Derrick DT
. I have heard some of you refer to him as a project, and if that was the case when drafting, I dont think it is acceptable to draft a 'project' with your second round pick.
Yet it's okay to take a "project" in the first round?
Jones31
01-01-2010, 05:10 PM
Depends on who you ask.... me not so much.
RegulatRR27
01-01-2010, 05:21 PM
lol don't mean to sound like a-hole, but what kind of draft review only reviews 3 of the 11 picks?
I see draft review, I like some in depth stuff, not a few phrases about 3 players, if you don't have info, research it, then post, it's always good to refresh a memory
Jimmyd24
01-01-2010, 05:24 PM
lol don't mean to sound like a-hole, but what kind of draft review only reviews 3 of the 11 picks?
I see draft review, I like some in depth stuff, not a few phrases about 3 players, if you don't have info, research it, then post, it's always good to refresh a memory
i live in florida, i dont see all the games. would you rather me post ignorant statements about them because i have never seen them play.
the point of the post was for people to discuss how they feel about them, im not posting an article for a newspaper or blog for a website.
thank you for your positive contribution to the post.
Jones31
01-01-2010, 07:01 PM
I don't think he's referring to Britt.
Johnnyb
01-01-2010, 07:30 PM
lol don't mean to sound like a-hole, but what kind of draft review only reviews 3 of the 11 picks?
I see draft review, I like some in depth stuff, not a few phrases about 3 players, if you don't have info, research it, then post, it's always good to refresh a memory
Well here's my take on them, I've seen as much of every game as i possibly could.
Round Pick Player Position
1 30 (30) Britt, Kenny WR
Excellent pick for our team in the first round. It's a well known fact that the Titans have needed a top receiver for years and finally we took one and got a gem in Britt. His body control, hands, routes and strength have been more and more evident as the season has gone on and I see him as being a huge playmaker for us in years to come.
One of his most underrated attributes has to be his downfield blocking. I don't know how many times I've seen CJ go off for a big long run and Britt is 60 yards down the field still blocking his man! The guy just an around player which is exactly what we need in our system of wanting to run the ball plenty.
2 30 (62) Marks, Sen'Derrick DT
Didn't play much to begin the season, but has started to come on a bit later. Before he was drafted he was projected as a 1st round pick, but at the combine he showed he had a lack of strength by only doing about 15 reps on the bench which is not so good for a defensive lineman. But in a way, that was a good thing for the coaches because they've been able to mold him into the kind of player with the kind of body they want and in my opinion he's become a pretty decent player because of it. I'm very excited to see how he does after having a full offseason of training.
3 25 (89) Cook, Jared TE
(From Patriots)
In preseason he looked like the next coming of Antonio Gates, Ozzie Newsome, and Kellen Winslow all rolled up into one (ok, well that might be goin a little far but he looked darn good). Then he got injured and was out for several weeks, came back for a bit and got hurt again. However he finally showed back up again in the Cardinals game and made some pretty important catches and has played fairly good in spots since.
His biggest problem is his blocking as a tight end, which is something that can be learned. Also, that's not as big of a deal if you look at the way we like to use Scaife and compare that to how we'd use Cook. We split Scaife out all the time and use him more like an H-back than a true tight end. Cook can hopefully truly excel in that spot and has the tools to be much more of a threat than Scaife.
3 30 (94) Mouton, Ryan CB
Well the beginning of the season did not go so well for Mouton, or as I like to call him, Muffton. He had several dropped punts that probably cost us two games early in the season and made a few crucial mistakes (catching the ball off the Texan player when he muffed it but didn't let it hit the ground, can't blame him too much for that though). However, as much criticism as he deserves for his special teams play he didn't look completely terrible as a cover corner, and looked ok in spots. He definitely has room to grow and maybe can turn into a decent nickel guy but I don't see him as our starter opposite Finnegan.
4 30 (130) McRath, Gerald LB
One of my favorite players later in the season, McRath came in and had to play a lot in the second half of the season with injuries first to Thorton, and then to Bulluck. He hasn't necessarily shown the ability to be a playmaker on defense but will probably be a nice solid player and could possibly grow into a starter.
4 35 (135) Kropog, Troy OT
(Compensatory selection)
Now this is one that's really hard to comment on because not only is he a lineman, he just didn't play much at all. As far as I know he has good size and the coaches seem to like him... That's about all I got on him.
5 37 (173) Ringer, Javon RB
(Compensatory selection)
Didn't get to play much in the regular season but in the preseason he looked like he could be a great compliment to Johnson when and if Lendale is gone next year. He runs hard and is a smaller guy who seems to pinball off tacklers in Maurice Jones-Drew fashion. Also shows great explosion at times and can take it to the house if you give him the room. If CJ is our lightning, Ringer could definitely bring some thunder and maybe have some sparks himself.
6 30 (203) McCourty, Jason CB
When Finnegan and Fuller went out we turned to our rookies in Mouton and McCourty to fill in, hoping they could do a decent job. Well they got torched pretty badly, however, I don't know if i can completely pin it on those guys. Griffin was playing terribly, Nick Harper has looked like his legs have weights on them all season, and lets not forget these were rookies. That being said McCourty still didn't look great early in the season.
However, in the last home game against the Chargers when Harper came out because of an injury and Mouton also slowed up, it was McCourty who filled in and actually played pretty decently. I felt like he played a lot better than Harper actually. I saw a lot of progression in his cover skills. Even though Rivers was able to throw on him pretty easily, he didn't get beat deep and actually covered decently. Rivers just made some great throws with even better catches.
6 33 (206) Edison, Dominique WR
(Compensatory selection)
Edison Played fairly well in preseason, well enough to earn himself a roster spot in the regular season. However, since then we haven't heard much from him. Good size and speed, decent hands, and runs pretty good routes. Was cut so we could sign Rod Hood though and put back on the practice squad but made it back to the roster by seasons end. Lots of potential but thats never a word you want to hear about you.
7 30 (239) Durand, Ryan OG
Made it to the practice squad, been there all season as far as I know.
7 33 (242) Schommer, Nick FS
Made it to the practice squad.
Well those are just my opinions on our draft picks from what I've seen of them this season. Hope that is what you were looking for :thumbsup
RegulatRR27
01-01-2010, 09:21 PM
Well first off I wasn't attacking anybody, just don't see the sense of posting something that well isn't complete or doesn't contain much substance. It would be like me starting a thread to discuss Ohio State, Florida, and Texas.
And you click on it and it has the following:
Ohio State: has a mobile QB, pretty solid defense, has problems showing up in big games.
Florida: has reincarnation of Jesus at the helm
Texas: Didn't Vince Young go there?
See, you don't need any of that, no depth, no substance.
just my opinion, if you don't agree, ok.
On the other hand JohnnyB, pretty much spot on with everything, although I question Ringer's break away speed, which is why he mighta slipped so much in the draft
utkjoe
01-01-2010, 09:53 PM
4 30 (130) McRath, Gerald LB
One of my favorite players later in the season, McRath came in and had to play a lot in the second half of the season with injuries first to Thorton, and then to Bulluck. He hasn't necessarily shown the ability to be a playmaker on defense but will probably be a nice solid player and could possibly grow into a starter.
I agree with pretty much everything you said here Johnnyb though I do want to say when it comes to McRath, I do see him becoming a playmaker on defense. I think he's looked as good if not better than Bulluck did his rookie season. He'll develop into our next underrated star at LB.
Johnnyb
01-01-2010, 10:34 PM
I agree with pretty much everything you said here Johnnyb though I do want to say when it comes to McRath, I do see him becoming a playmaker on defense. I think he's looked as good if not better than Bulluck did his rookie season. He'll develop into our next underrated star at LB.
Well I don't necessarily mean he won't be a playmaker, but he hasn't really shown that yet. He could grow into that easily because he's still a rookie and his solid play is a very good sign. Once he gets older and the game slows down for him, then he can start making big plays. Which is very possible. I'm extremely excited about him.
On the other hand JohnnyB, pretty much spot on with everything, although I question Ringer's break away speed, which is why he mighta slipped so much in the draft
Didn't really mean he had break away speed but he can hit long ones. He's definitely faster than Lendale :laugh
Titans_Win_Again
01-01-2010, 10:45 PM
The statement about McRath was accurate he hasn't been an explosive playmaker but he has been very solid. He has a lot of potential (fastest LB at the combine with a 4.49), so I'm looking forward to seeing him build off his experience this year.
Jimmyd24
01-01-2010, 11:24 PM
Well first off I wasn't attacking anybody, just don't see the sense of posting something that well isn't complete or doesn't contain much substance. It would be like me starting a thread to discuss Ohio State, Florida, and Texas.
And you click on it and it has the following:
Ohio State: has a mobile QB, pretty solid defense, has problems showing up in big games.
Florida: has reincarnation of Jesus at the helm
Texas: Didn't Vince Young go there?
See, you don't need any of that, no depth, no substance.
just my opinion, if you don't agree, ok.
On the other hand JohnnyB, pretty much spot on with everything, although I question Ringer's break away speed, which is why he mighta slipped so much in the draft
yet two of your posts have had not substance at them at all besides questioning the purpose of a post.
this season is pretty much at its end, and when that happns teams and fans have their first chance to step back and analyze last years draft. it usually takes a few years to be able to accurately do so but i thought with the season coming to an end it would be appropriate.
and to your point, i guess my thread was labeled incorrectly, next time i will be more careful. it should be called how do you feel about the draft after a season.
RegulatRR27
01-02-2010, 01:03 AM
Well when you have to critique something how much more substance can you have, then just to identify A,B,C etc.?
If you can't handle a lil criticism every once and a while, you may not want to be on a message board
but I digress....
I wouldn't be opposed to trying to trade back maybe pick up a few later picks, a pick next year, something, as some have already suggested.
ZachLV27
01-02-2010, 01:47 AM
Well when you have to critique something how much more substance can you have, then just to identify A,B,C etc.?
If you can't handle a lil criticism every once and a while, you may not want to be on a message board
but I digress....
I wouldn't be opposed to trying to trade back maybe pick up a few later picks, a pick next year, something, as some have already suggested.
Message boards are there to have conversations. He created this thread as a conversation starter and not as a soap box he could preach from.
You want to hear a "lil criticism"?
Stop being such an ass and people might actually pay attention to what you have to say.
Big Time
01-02-2010, 01:52 AM
+1 for McGrath. I really like what I've seen. I hope we hang onto him.
RegulatRR27
01-02-2010, 02:21 AM
all i was offering was a lil advice, take it or leave, it people get all bent outta shape over lil things, then so be it.
People can pay attention to me, or ignore me, won't faze me, and I don't think he needs you to co-sign for him, he seems like a big boy, he can handle himself.
And if sum1 thinks I'm an ass for anything I said, or will say in the future, um sorry?:GrowUp sure hope one day when your boss says something you don't like, you don't call him an ass, <---sum more advice--take it or leave it
TitansFan23
01-02-2010, 03:08 AM
GrowUp sure hope one day when your boss says something you don't like, you don't call him an ass, <---sum more advice--take it or leave it
Wow, that was a stretch...
Aceonline
01-02-2010, 04:51 AM
Alot of anger in this conversation.
Old Oilers Fan
01-02-2010, 08:53 AM
all i was offering was a lil advice, take it or leave, it people get all bent outta shape over lil things, then so be it.
People can pay attention to me, or ignore me, won't faze me, and I don't think he needs you to co-sign for him, he seems like a big boy, he can handle himself.
And if sum1 thinks I'm an ass for anything I said, or will say in the future, um sorry?:GrowUp sure hope one day when your boss says something you don't like, you don't call him an ass, <---sum more advice--take it or leave it
Who died and left you boss? :lol
Cld12pk2go
01-02-2010, 09:15 AM
Round Pick Player Position
1 30 (30) Britt, Kenny WR
Stud. Just what we needed in a WR. Should help VY greatly in the years to come.
2 30 (62) Marks, Sen'Derrick DT
Came on pretty well in the 2nd half of the year. An upgrade to Vickerson. Should be a pretty solid player with another year in the system. Good upside.
3 25 (89) Cook, Jared TE
Looked better than Troupe ever did in preseason, but did less than Troupe in his rookie year. Hopefully, he gets it together for next year because he is 100% weapon and can be much more for VY than Frank was to Steve.
Looks somewhat expensive right now (mid 2nd round pick), but that could easily change to a Witten-like steal if he plays like he appeared capable of in preseason.
3 30 (94) Mouton, Ryan CB
Had to play too soon and stunk it up. Played better at the end of the season though. Too soon to call...
4 30 (130) McRath, Gerald LB
Looking like an excellent pick. I think he showed great instinct and range in the 2nd half of the season. I don't think he is going to relinquish his hold on one of the OLB spots for many years.
4 35 (135) Kropog, Troy OT
Just another widebody for Munch to develop. I don't think he played a snap. Of course neither did Stew his rookie year and he is probably one of the top 3 RTs in the game.
5 37 (173) Ringer, Javon RB
Great vision, balance, and instincts as a RB. I only question if he is quick enough to be very useful. Maybe it is due to playing on the same team with CJ, but he seemed rather slow at times.
6 30 (203) McCourty, Jason CB
Also got tossed to the wolves early and didn't do so well. Played quite a bit better late in the season. Looking like a solid backup CB, which is a great value in the 6th round. Will be fun to see how he develops.
6 33 (206) Edison, Dominique WR
Lots of potential. He scraped enough to bounce back to the roster a few times. Too early to tell due to limited opportunities...
7 30 (239) Durand, Ryan OG
See Kropog, Troy
7 33 (242) Schommer, Nick FS
I think I might have heard him make a ST tackle or two. That is about it. He made the team, which many 7th round picks cannot say...
TTP77
01-02-2010, 12:32 PM
I agree mostly with what everyone has said except I think McCourty has a chance to be a good CB. I really like what I've seen from him. For his size he's got great speed and quickness. seems to have pretty good instincts too. And I think McGrath is going to be very good. Marks too. I want to see more from Ryan Mouton. Yea he got thrown out there too soon and has struggled but he also has been injured. I think he has a bright future too. Cook is the one I'm most disappointed in but I think we got our expectations up too high on him.
RegulatRR27
01-02-2010, 12:44 PM
Wasn't thinking I was the boss, just first example that came to mind.........
anyways....
McCourty-at the very least he seems to be an aggressive tackler, kinda how Harper is. One thing that I have always loved, is the checkdown pass on the right side (offense's right side) and knowing there was a good chance Harper would come up and under cut the ball carrier, seems painful everytime, so if there is one thing these young DBs can take from Harper, it is his tackling and overall run support
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