Coach Fisher on NFL network, #18 jersey?

[TITAN 1]

He was just on a coaches show where they were talking about the upcoming Super Bowl. He was the only active coach and when he was asked at the end of the show who he thought would win he said it would not be fair to pick one. Then he pulls out a Peyton Manning jersey and started to put it on, but Steve Mariucci stopped him. He said havn't you already got into trouble for doing that? I'm glad our coach has a sense of humor.:D

[Jones31]

it was funny 3 months ago coach....

[SouthSide Titan]

Yeah Fish let it go!! Work with what you have.I got love for Manning to but come on!! LOL

[TITAN 1]

it was funny 3 months ago coach....It was funny again, because it was setup for Steve to stop him. They were poking fun at the first time.:slap

[RallyRedBmore]

yea, i saw it. it was funny, they were making fun of him doing it before, he wasnt even close to putting it on, lol

[gnarl]

that's awesome.

sign the man to an extension.

[ryangm2123]

http://questfamily.com/assets/images/recycle.jpg

[TITAN 1]

http://questfamily.com/assets/images/recycle.jpgI guess you didn't get it.:lolhit

[Sect309Fan]

I know my #18 jersey has been getting a lot of use lately. :lol

[TTP77]

it wasn't universally funny to everyone. it ticked off a ton of fans. I'm beginning to wonder if Bud's senility hasn't infected Fisher as well. Now didn't everyone think that was funny? ha!

[Titanico]

it wasn't universally funny to everyone. it ticked off a ton of fans.

Yep. That still bothers me to no end. And as I posted before, it bothered fans from other teams that I know personally. They come up to me saying "That wasn't right"...even for the Indianapolis fans I know. They came up to me with this somber expression in their faces.

Rivalries are taken and understood with fans over here. That's enough to understand what is right and what it isn't.

[Jones31]

I know my #18 jersey has been getting a lot of use lately. :lol

Look we know you sleep in it, but come on... don't broadcast it.






wait






what?

[Sect309Fan]

Keep your sick thoughts to yourself, Jonsie. :nono

[Jones31]

Ha ha ha.

[TitansJonne]

Yep. That still bothers me to no end. And as I posted before, it bothered fans from other teams that I know personally. They come up to me saying "That wasn't right"...even for the Indianapolis fans I know. They came up to me with this somber expression in their faces.

Rivalries are taken and understood with fans over here. That's enough to understand what is right and what it isn't.

I love your sig. :lmao awesome.

[TitansFan23]

That is pretty funny. :lol

[ZachLV27]

it wasn't universally funny to everyone. it ticked off a ton of fans. I'm beginning to wonder if Bud's senility hasn't infected Fisher as well. Now didn't everyone think that was funny? ha!

A majority of the people that didn't find it funny and still don't find it funny are people that want Fisher gone. A lot of the people that did find it funny just happen to be fine or are indifferent with Fisher as the coach.

Coincidence? I think not.

[Jones31]

I found it funny then, don't find it funny today..... and I want him gone.

[ZachLV27]

I found it funny then, don't find it funny today..... and I want him gone.

You just have to be different, don't you? :slap:p

[Old Oilers Fan]

What Fisher does on his own time has no concern to me. It is how he runs his team that I care about. As far as his teams goes I think he does a good job.

[315]

Keep your sick thoughts to yourself, Jonsie. :nono

I will give you "teabag rating" rights for a day if you need.

[315]

A majority of the people that didn't find it funny and still don't find it funny are people that want Fisher gone. A lot of the people that did find it funny just happen to be fine or are indifferent with Fisher as the coach.

Coincidence? I think not.

I wanted him gone the moment he did it and not a moment before... and pretty much every day since then.

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[hooktool]

I saw it today, and it was funny. I like people that can laugh at themselves. I do it all the time. :)

John

[TitansFan370]

GEAUX SAINTS! And is it too much to ask Fisher to just "go" anywhere? JUST LEAVE NASHVILLE AND THE TITANS! BOO FISHER!

[TTP77]

A majority of the people that didn't find it funny and still don't find it funny are people that want Fisher gone. A lot of the people that did find it funny just happen to be fine or are indifferent with Fisher as the coach.

Coincidence? I think not.

I pretty much didn't care one way or the other. but I do know that it made some fans mad. I was on the fence on Jeff Fisher until he fired Byner. That did it for me. We'll fire the coach who does a good job but keep the guy(s) who sucked a$$ last year? Right.....

[Mike McFan]

I wanted him gone the moment he did it and not a moment before... and pretty much every day since then.

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Just popped in long enough to let my opinion be heard.
Thanks Dave.:doh

[TITAN 1]

GEAUX SAINTS! And is it too much to ask Fisher to just "go" anywhere? JUST LEAVE NASHVILLE AND THE TITANS! BOO FISHER!Edited because, not worth it.

[TITAN 1]

I'd rather have a great coach with a personality and sense of humor than to be stuck with an asshole like Billick, Bilicheck, or Coughlin! Life is short, laughter is healthy, people smiling is contagious. Enjoy it while you can.

[SouthSide Titan]

I know my #18 jersey has been getting a lot of use lately. :lol

YESSSIRRRR!!! :thumbsup

[Jones31]

I'd rather have a great coach with a personality and sense of humor than to be stuck with an asshole like Billick, Bilicheck, or Coughlin! Life is short, laughter is healthy, people smiling is contagious. Enjoy it while you can.

Yet those guys have these....
http://z.about.com/d/jewelry/1/5/w/4/ravens_2001_xxxv.jpg

http://store.cstv.com/marketplace/store/Vendor204/fullscale/TM1250-c.JPG

http://www.castlenofear.com/e107_files/public/1207192185_29_FT0_1207173316.jpg

[TITAN 1]

Yet those guys have these....
http://z.about.com/d/jewelry/1/5/w/4/ravens_2001_xxxv.jpg

http://store.cstv.com/marketplace/store/Vendor204/fullscale/TM1250-c.JPG

http://www.castlenofear.com/e107_files/public/1207192185_29_FT0_1207173316.jpgI would still rather have a competitive team most years with a coach with class than ten super bowls with a coach that is an ass.

[Jones31]

5 Championships can't be wrong in my book.

[SouthSide Titan]

Yet those guys have these....
http://z.about.com/d/jewelry/1/5/w/4/ravens_2001_xxxv.jpg

http://store.cstv.com/marketplace/store/Vendor204/fullscale/TM1250-c.JPG

http://www.castlenofear.com/e107_files/public/1207192185_29_FT0_1207173316.jpg

Alright! Alright! Alright! Enough with the rings with no Titans logo present!! LOL :lol

[TitansGiantsBears]

I found it funny then and still do. I'm fine whether Fish stays or goes. Sometimes there's value in stability. You also have to remember that sometimes you get what you ask for.

[TTP77]

Bud Adams hired Jeff Fisher. Why does everyone assume he'll make a bad choice the next time around? There's value in change as well. Fear of change is paralyzing and leads to mediocrity.

[Sect309Fan]

Bud Adams hired Jeff Fisher. Why does everyone assume he'll make a bad choice the next time around? There's value in change as well. Fear of change is paralyzing and leads to mediocrity.

Fisher is still head coach for a variety of reasons, but "fear of change" is likely far down the list.

[TTP77]

Fear of change looms large in fans. For Bud Adams it's monetary at this point. If Fisher had been in the final year of his contract last year I think it's very possible he loses his job. Let's not confuse the two.

[Sect309Fan]

I put "fear of change" very low on my list on why Fisher should stay as well.

Yes, Bud is paying a lot of money for Fisher, but he obviously believes in Fisher as well, even if they don't agree on everything. Bud is well known for firing coaches at any time, so Fisher definitely has made an impact on Bud for him to keep him this long.

[TTP77]

If it's low on the list then why is it constantly cited by fans around here. I'm well aware of Bud's history. He obviously thought about it according to his statements during the season.

As for Fisher I'm beginning to wonder when the deification of this guy will finally end. For christ's sake you actually have people who think there is some hidden story anytime this guy does something that reflects badly on him. Every reporter who covers this team has told us exactly what happened with Byner. You know it really can be something as simple as Jeff Fisher being a penis head (IMO) and firing a guy who questioned some things that went on. Why not call it what it is instead of looking for some reason to make it look any different? Just say "so what he did I'm fine with it because I support Fisher and want him to be coach as long as he wants to be here." I'm just tired of all the excuses for this guy. Do we expect accountability from the players and yet none from the coach?

[Sect309Fan]

You know it really can be something as simple as Jeff Fisher being a penis head (IMO) and firing a guy who questioned some things that went on. Why not call it what it is instead of looking for some reason to make it look any different?

Because of the timing of it all. If Fisher had fired Byner as soon as the season ended and then did a search for a running backs coach, you could say with certainity why Byner was fired.

But since Pola was hired immediately after the firing, the reasoning behind the change is very likely different. Fisher wanted Pola a few years ago, but the Jags wouldn't let him go. It sure sounds like Pola let his contract expire on purpose so he could become a Titans coach.

As I stated before, Fisher has proven he will drop a coach suddenly if he wants someone else. It is no coincidence that Dinger was hired within a few days of Chow's unexpected firing. I really believe that he wanted Pola more than he didn't want Byner.

[Old Oilers Fan]

Fear of change looms large in fans. For Bud Adams it's monetary at this point. If Fisher had been in the final year of his contract last year I think it's very possible he loses his job. Let's not confuse the two.

I agree with this statement 100%. I still think next season is the make it or goodbye season. Fisher got what he deserve the team has been fair to him. If he is fired next season it will be because this team needs to move on. What I don't understand is the hatred for Fisher he has been nothing but good for this franchise. Every coach has to hold his ground and Fisher has done just that. He has brought out more from Mr. Adams than any coach in the past. Why? Because he has proven that he can make winners out of his teams. The Super Bowl ring is his only set back and sadly our fans pull that out like a knife in a fight.

[Sect309Fan]

I still think next season is the make it or goodbye season.

Good post. The question is what is the definition of "make it"?

I do believe he has to make the playoffs next year to keep his job. One bad year is normal for Fisher. Two is not, at least not at this point in the cycle.

Winning a playoff game will likely lead to a contract renewal. Losing the first playoff game probably puts him on the hot seat again with just 2011 remaining on his contract. Going to a Super Bowl will lead to a multi-year contract.

[Old Oilers Fan]

Good post. The question is what is the definition of "make it"?

I do believe he has to make the playoffs next year to keep his job. One bad year is normal for Fisher. Two is not, at least not at this point in the cycle.

Winning a playoff game will likely lead to a contract renewal. Losing the first playoff game probably puts him on the hot seat again with just 2011 remaining on his contract. Going to a Super Bowl will lead to a multi-year contract.

I think that Mr. Adams will never renew Fishers contract unless he wins a Super Bowl. A playoff appearance could let him coach his final year.

[Sect309Fan]

I think that Mr. Adams will never renew Fishers contract unless he wins a Super Bowl. A playoff appearance could let him coach his final year.

I can't imagine that Bud is that narrow, but we will just have to see.

[Titanico]

Because he has proven that he can make winners out of his teams. The Super Bowl ring is his only set back and sadly our fans pull that out like a knife in a fight.

Jeff Fisher's problem is not only not winning a Super Bowl. There had been several things that he hasn't figure out on how to create a solid team, season after season. The important thing is not to be here for 15 years...the important thing is that after so much time he should had something better to show with facts in the benefit of the team he coaches and the fans of this team that had been loyal. But we haven't got a respected team...mediocre at best.


The Super Bowl win is something that any fan should wish, with all. Mostly when you have seen different rosters that had the power to accomplish it.

-Fisher has had good rosters under his command, to have not only better seasons but to win the Super Bowl. We haven't win one.

- He never ever points out what's really happening, and after 10 years that became old, as if we the fans were stupid. There was a period of time, where the team was adjusting to their new home, Nashville fans recieved the team as if they were "tri-champs", The Colliseum was named one of the loudest stadiums in the NFL...thanks to the fans.

- In seasons that the team is supposed to come back with better things for next season, they always stay short. 2000, 2001, 2003 and 2009. In other words, Fisher hasn't been able to keep a good and expected consistency.

- His OC and DC picks. His control on this units. When Schwartz understood what he can do, he goes from the team. And Fisher decides that bringing a rookie DC was a great option...when he had Gregg Williams asking for the job. (that keeps on showing that Jeff Fisher likes to be a control freak..and that has hurt the team several times).

-All the losses when we play on the West Coast.

- No wins in playoffs after 2003.

- His game plans that are good for 2 quarters, but not for the whole game. (he doesn't have that flexibility in his game plans).

- His poor control of scouting teams. Players that we really needed had been ingored in several drafts. Now they are making a name in other teams.

- He has kept players as starters, and they had been good as 3rd stringers, not as starters during his tenure (Thompson, Hill, so many WRs..to name some).

- Being asked by the owner to start the supposed franchise QB that he drafted. (the owner)

-Wearing that Indianapolis 18 jersey, after a 0-6 start after coming from the best season from any team in 2008, a 0-59 loss against New England in between...

- As a fan I demand a better coach that really knows what he is doing, that has more respect for his job and the fans, that he has a program to get a winning, solid and consitant team..one that could win a Super Bowl...a coach that could be over the scouting troops to make them sure that they will bring SOLID players to the team. A coach that is able to give Nashville and the fans around the World something to really be proud of... not only tales that are good for soap operas, but not to create a respectable and Super Bowl winning team.

[TTP77]

Because of the timing of it all. If Fisher had fired Byner as soon as the season ended and then did a search for a running backs coach, you could say with certainity why Byner was fired.

But since Pola was hired immediately after the firing, the reasoning behind the change is very likely different. Fisher wanted Pola a few years ago, but the Jags wouldn't let him go. It sure sounds like Pola let his contract expire on purpose so he could become a Titans coach.

As I stated before, Fisher has proven he will drop a coach suddenly if he wants someone else. It is no coincidence that Dinger was hired within a few days of Chow's unexpected firing. I really believe that he wanted Pola more than he didn't want Byner.

Fisher's loyalty is legendary. I think Byner would still be coach if he hadn't spoken out and spoken his mind. And the beat reporters are saying the same thing. And your statement is what I'm getting at. The spin to make it look less poorly on Fisher.

As for hating Fisher I don't hate him. I'm just over him as head coach of this team and I'm ready for a change. I'm sure he's fun to hang with and have an adult beverage and all that. Of course I wouldn't believe a dang word that came out of his mouth either. ;) :lol

[Old Oilers Fan]

I can't imagine that Bud is that narrow, but we will just have to see.

What? Bum Phillips was in the playoffs in his last three season for this franchise plus he was a fan favorite. Jerry Glanville lost his job after making the playoffs in his last three times. Jack Pardee took over for Glanville and went to the playoffs four years in a row never had a losing season until the year that Fisher took over. To tell the truth I am surprised that Fisher has this job as long as he has.

[Titanico]

Winning a playoff game will likely lead to a contract renewal.

I really hope that's not the case. Fisher needs to go...the sooner the best.

[TTP77]

I think that Mr. Adams will never renew Fishers contract unless he wins a Super Bowl. A playoff appearance could let him coach his final year.

I think we'd have to be more than one and done in the playoffs too.

[Sect309Fan]

I think we'd have to be more than one and done in the playoffs too.

That is what I am saying as well. If he fails to win a playoff game in the next two years, he won't be around in 2012. If he doesn't make the playoffs in 2010, he might not be around for 2011.

[Old Oilers Fan]

Jeff Fisher's problem is not only not winning a Super Bowl. There had been several things that he hasn't figure out on how to create a solid team, season after season. The important thing is not to be here for 15 years...the important thing is that after so much time he should had something better to show with facts in the benefit of the team he coaches and the fans of this team that had been loyal. But we haven't got a respected team...mediocre at best.


The Super Bowl win is something that any fan should wish, with all. Mostly when you have seen different rosters that had the power to accomplish it.

-Fisher has had good rosters under his command, to have not only better seasons but to win the Super Bowl. We haven't win one.

- He never ever points out what's really happening, and after 10 years that became old, as if we the fans were stupid. There was a period of time, where the team was adjusting to their new home, Nashville fans recieved the team as if they were "tri-champs", The Colliseum was named one of the loudest stadiums in the NFL...thanks to the fans.

- In seasons that the team is supposed to come back with better things for next season, they always stay short. 2000, 2001, 2003 and 2009. In other words, Fisher hasn't been able to keep a good and expected consistency.

- His OC and DC picks. His control on this units. When Schwartz understood what he can do, he goes from the team. And Fisher decides that bringing a rookie DC was a great option...when he had Gregg Williams asking for the job. (that keeps on showing that Jeff Fisher likes to be a control freak..and that has hurt the team several times).

-All the losses when we play on the West Coast.

- No wins in playoffs after 2003.

- His game plans that are good for 2 quarters, but not for the whole game. (he doesn't have that flexibility in his game plans).

- His poor control of scouting teams. Players that we really needed had been ingored in several drafts. Now they are making a name in other teams.

- He has kept players as starters, and they had been good as 3rd stringers, not as starters during his tenure (Thompson, Hill, so many WRs..to name some).

- Being asked by the owner to start the supposed franchise QB that he drafted. (the owner)

-Wearing that Indianapolis 18 jersey, after a 0-6 start after coming from the best season from any team in 2008, a 0-59 loss against New England in between...

- As a fan I demand a better coach that really knows what he is doing, that has more respect for his job and the fans, that he has a program to get a winning, solid and consitant team..one that could win a Super Bowl...a coach that could be over the scouting troops to make them sure that they will bring SOLID players to the team. A coach that is able to give Nashville and the fans around the World something to really be proud of... not only tales that are good for soap operas, but not to create a respectable and Super Bowl winning team.

Titanico those are all good reasons but if the bad luck that hit the players Fisher would have a better out look. Losing our starting DB in the Super Bowl and the miss FG plus Fumbles in the playoffs was somethings that Fisher couldn't help. We all know (here it is :lol ) IF those things didn't happen we all would be seeing things different. It is hard to be consistent in the NFL these days.

[TTP77]

That is what I am saying as well. If he fails to win a playoff game in the next two years, he won't be around in 2012. If he doesn't make the playoffs in 2010, he might not be around for 2011.

I wouldn't disagree except the upcoming lockout could affect that as well. The lockout might prove a good time for Bud and family to just clean house. We'll have to see. The labor uncertainty certainly adds a wrinkle to the situation.

[TTP77]

Titanico those are all good reasons but if the bad luck that hit the players Fisher would have a better out look. Losing our starting DB in the Super Bowl and the miss FG plus Fumbles in the playoffs was somethings that Fisher couldn't help. We all know (here it is :lol ) IF those things didn't happen we all would be seeing things different. It is hard to be consistent in the NFL these days.

OOF, I've posed this question before and never got an answer so let's see what you think. I would agree that isolated incidents of those issues can't be entirely blamed on the coaching staff. But wouldn't you agree that this team has been incredibly undisciplined the past few years? We fumble and bumble our way through big games over and over. We commit penalties and mistakes at the most crucial moments. Doesn't that reflect on coaching?

[Jones31]

That is what I am saying as well. If he fails to win a playoff game in the next two years, he won't be around in 2012. If he doesn't make the playoffs in 2010, he might not be around for 2011.

Let's not count 2011 just yet. There is no assurances of a season right now.

[TTP77]

I think there will be a season in 2011 but with a lot of new faces and not just the players.

[Old Oilers Fan]

I think we'd have to be more than one and done in the playoffs too.


That is what I am saying as well. If he fails to win a playoff game in the next two years, he won't be around in 2012. If he doesn't make the playoffs in 2010, he might not be around for 2011.

Making the playoffs is not an guarantee that is why I said could.

Now 2012 I will wait and see what happens after Dec. 21st. :lol

[Old Oilers Fan]

OOF, I've posed this question before and never got an answer so let's see what you think. I would agree that isolated incidents of those issues can't be entirely blamed on the coaching staff. But wouldn't you agree that this team has been incredibly undisciplined the past few years? We fumble and bumble our way through big games over and over. We commit penalties and mistakes at the most crucial moments. Doesn't that reflect on coaching?

TTP77 to tell the truth I really don't know. For once I like to read players getting fined by the team for their bonehead penalties and mistakes. To me I think that it will make them focus more. I don't know what a coach can do about the Fumbles and miss FG. As far as this team being undisciplined I don't see our players disrespecting the coaches on the sideline and when they get into each other faces it is usually from emotions not because they are undisciplined.

[TTP77]

I guess I just disagree. Penalties, fumbles and mistakes like missed communication in the secondary is a sign of lack of discipline. JMO

[Old Oilers Fan]

I guess I just disagree. Penalties, fumbles and mistakes like missed communication in the secondary is a sign of lack of discipline. JMO

There is really nothing to disagree about. I told you I don't know. I guess that is because I never had discipline myself. :p

:lol

[TTP77]

lol, it's all good. i'm not sure i have it either! :toast

[TitansGiantsBears]

I have mixed feelings about Fisher. As I said in an earlier post, if he stays he stays and if he goes, he goes. I won't be heartbroken one way or the other.

In many ways Fisher has provided the Titans with much needed stability both on the field and off as the face of the franchise. That is worth something. So too are his 100 plus victories as coach of this team. He's gotten the team to the biggest stage once and has played for the AFC Championship two other times. He somehow kept the team together through the mess that last year in Houston and through the moves to Memphis, Vandy, and finally into their own home. He has won with rosters that are short on name players. He's hit some home runs in the draft, Chris Johnson being chief among them.

On the flip side, he seems to have an ego the size of Everest. He has only 6 winning seasons in his 15 years as coach of this team. His team choked (or over-achieved depending on your point of view) last year, especially in the playoffs. Whether fans of this team like it or not, Tennessee has (rightfully or not - not the thread to argue it here) a reputation of having a cheap front office. While Fisher has won with rosters short on big names, he's also under-achieved when his team has the names or expectations. He also has a problem getting a season off to a good start. His '95 team started off 2-5 before finishing at 7-9. The '97 team started 2-4 (finished 8-8), the '01 team started 2-4
(7-9), the '02 team started 2-4 and finished 11-5 and in the conference championship game, the '04 team started 2-4 (5-11), the '05 team started 2-7 (4-12), the '06 team started 0-5 then moved to 2-7 before finishing at 8-8, and this past year's team started 0-6 but rallied to 8-8. Then there was the '96 team that started 5-2 but finished 8-8. So many seasons the team finished strong but the start of the season left the Titans merely mediocre. To me this is the scourge of the Fisher era - the team rises or falls with streaks. Who were the '08 Titans? The team that dominated the NFL in beginning 10-0 or the mediocre bunch that finished the season 3-4 including a first-round playoff loss to Baltimore? Who were the '09 Titans? The pitiful bunch that began the season 0-6 including an historical epic loss to New England that ranks among the worst in league history, or the one that rallied to finish 8-8?

Too many of the Titans' seasons under Fisher have been a tale of two halves of the season. So which is he? The coach that's bad enough to start so poorly so often or the one who rallies those poor teams to finish respectable?

Personally, I see both points for both sides of the argument which is why I say, if he stays, he stays. If he goes, he goes.

[Red Birds]

I will be pissed if Fisher is let go! Especially with an older owner. Look at who Ralph Wilson in Buffalo has hired over the past several years & Al Davis. The old AFL owners are making horriable decisions from the top down & I would fear ending up with A poor coach who makes bad personal decisions. Older owners still think it's 20 or 30 years ago and haven't evolved. Fisher will get this defense back into the Top 5 next season & with the playmakers on offense (including an improved VY) I suspect we will be in the running for a Super Bowl soon.

[hooktool]

And therein lies the danger. As they say, be careful what you wish for.......

Every demand for Fisher's firing should be accompanied by a wish for a reasonable and realistic prospect for a replacement. :)

John

[TTP77]

I really like the young DC for the Packers. :) I'm about ready I think to switch to a 3-4 anyway and he's done an excellent job in his young career. :thumbsup

[TTP77]

This is the guy I'm talking about...I said DC but that wasn't his title. He will be a head coach soon I promise you! Would love for us to look at him IF we go in a new direction

http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/moss_winston/#