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SwissTitansFan
04-17-2009, 06:24 AM
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090417/SPORTS01/904170330/1027

ohhh...come on FO give at least an effort to get him over here...

chronbrownie012
04-17-2009, 08:19 AM
all the while the ratbirds have thrown in their 1st and 3rd round picks into the game

titan122
04-17-2009, 11:57 AM
it is soo sad that the kind of calliber player that boldin is and the titans wont even try to make any kind of move. wonder what cleveland is wanting for edwards?

RallyRedBmore
04-17-2009, 12:10 PM
while boldin is a much better recieve then we currently have on our team, he also has the advantages of playing in a high scoring, throw all the time offense, and has fitz on the other side eating up some double teams.... we can offer none of that. will he be good on another team? yes... as good as he is now in AZ? NO

devin
04-17-2009, 12:16 PM
In his rookie year(2003), Anquan caught 101 passes for 1,377 yards. Fitzgerald was drafted the following year. I don't think Fitzgerald has had much to do with Boldin's success. Arizona was ranked 23rd in passing that season with Josh Mccown and Jeff Blake splitting time at QB.

titan122
04-17-2009, 12:20 PM
but what he does isnt just deep passing routes. what i can remember seeing most of was yac short routes and making something happen after the catch. i think thats perfect for what we do if washington can take it deep and gage across on the other side and boldin doin what he does.

thats what i'm thinkin anyways:thumbsup

Jones31
04-17-2009, 12:23 PM
Too bad our owner's name is Bud... and not Bill. He'd have a new nickname.

Mike McFan
04-17-2009, 12:24 PM
The Titans are NOT going to sign either him or Holt.
You know it, I know it, heck even Yellow Dog knows it.:doh

titan122
04-17-2009, 12:29 PM
i know:sad but i am gonna keep wishing:thumbsup

Jones31
04-17-2009, 12:53 PM
The Titans are NOT going to sign either him or Holt.
You know it, I know it, heck even Yellow Dog knows it.:doh

Well when we keep going nowhere.....

Titanico
04-17-2009, 01:51 PM
I would give a No.1 and No.2 pick in a heart beat to get Boldin...

Rolltide14TOMB
04-17-2009, 01:59 PM
I would give a No.1 and No.2 pick in a heart beat to get Boldin...

really? not me...i mean sure boldin is great and everything and id love to have him BUT not for a 1 and 2...there are select view players i would give up a 1st and 2nd for...Matt Ryan and Fitzgerald being 2 that come to mind....However i would at least consider our first this year and MAYBE a 2nd next year or something but not consective first and 2nd rounders...If only we had a player that interested them...LW maybe? wishful thinking

Rolltide14TOMB
04-17-2009, 02:03 PM
ok what the heck ive changed my mind i would trade a 1st and 2nd for him...i mean we have gotten Al, CJ, and Bulluck but floundered on VY, Pac, i believe Troupe was a second, Calico was horrible, LW eh ok decent i guess, Mike Griffin is great

so we hit homers on Griffin, albert, and CJ but have struck out many times as well...so i will say the odds are against another late 1st round home-run so i would settle for a triple with Boldin

NiagaraTitan
04-17-2009, 03:51 PM
Titans unlikley to get Anquan Boldin?

Jee, what a surprise hahaha

RohitTheNair
04-17-2009, 04:16 PM
Didnt have much hope anyway....I just hope he goes to another NFC team.

Titanico
04-17-2009, 07:35 PM
ok what the heck ive changed my mind i would trade a 1st and 2nd for him...i mean we have gotten Al, CJ, and Bulluck but floundered on VY, Pac, i believe Troupe was a second, Calico was horrible, LW eh ok decent i guess, Mike Griffin is great

so we hit homers on Griffin, albert, and CJ but have struck out many times as well...so i will say the odds are against another late 1st round home-run so i would settle for a triple with Boldin

Good post. I agree and I had been thinking that for a while. Our scouting group has been short in many selections (Young falls in Adams' shoulders).

We need to sign a good and fast WR. That will also help us in being looked more serious to the eyes of "the three headed monster" (a.k.a. the freakin' media).

TitansGiantsBears
04-17-2009, 09:19 PM
It's things like this and the Peters signing in Philly, etc, that make me question the Titans front office. They seem content to BE in the NFL, but not serious about winning it all. The only way they will ever win it is on the cheap. Last year was their best shot at doing just that. All the cards fell just right, but the lack of playmaking talent bit them in the playoffs. It seems other teams go after playmakers while the Titans keep an eye out for that next role player or depth guy. We have two #2 receivers in Gage and Washington and a bunch of guys who would be lucky to make most NFL squads. I'm not upset or anything. I've just come to realize that it's the way things are with this team. Winning isn't as important as putting a product on the field. If that product happens to win a few games - great. If not, at least they didn't spend a lot of money.

tyrant28
04-18-2009, 02:04 PM
i kind of figured, but its always good to keep on dreaming! heehehe!! holt might take til 2012 to make his decision!!!!

Titans and Turtles
04-18-2009, 02:15 PM
It's things like this and the Peters signing in Philly, etc, that make me question the Titans front office. They seem content to BE in the NFL, but not serious about winning it all. The only way they will ever win it is on the cheap. Last year was their best shot at doing just that. All the cards fell just right, but the lack of playmaking talent bit them in the playoffs. It seems other teams go after playmakers while the Titans keep an eye out for that next role player or depth guy. We have two #2 receivers in Gage and Washington and a bunch of guys who would be lucky to make most NFL squads. I'm not upset or anything. I've just come to realize that it's the way things are with this team. Winning isn't as important as putting a product on the field. If that product happens to win a few games - great. If not, at least they didn't spend a lot of money.

Dead on. Winning a championship would sure be swell, but it's incredibly clear it's nowhere on the F.O.'s list of priorities. Just field a team that has a cup of coffee in the playoffs a time or two every few years, and this fanbase (us) will keep the stadium sold out. Why spend more and actually be serious about winning when you can maximize profit this way?

Rolltide14TOMB
04-18-2009, 02:25 PM
It's things like this and the Peters signing in Philly, etc, that make me question the Titans front office. They seem content to BE in the NFL, but not serious about winning it all. The only way they will ever win it is on the cheap. Last year was their best shot at doing just that. All the cards fell just right, but the lack of playmaking talent bit them in the playoffs. It seems other teams go after playmakers while the Titans keep an eye out for that next role player or depth guy. We have two #2 receivers in Gage and Washington and a bunch of guys who would be lucky to make most NFL squads. I'm not upset or anything. I've just come to realize that it's the way things are with this team. Winning isn't as important as putting a product on the field. If that product happens to win a few games - great. If not, at least they didn't spend a lot of money.


It's things like this and the Peters signing in Philly, etc, that make me question the Titans front office. They seem content to BE in the NFL, but not serious about winning it all. The only way they will ever win it is on the cheap. Last year was their best shot at doing just that. All the cards fell just right, but the lack of playmaking talent bit them in the playoffs. It seems other teams go after playmakers while the Titans keep an eye out for that next role player or depth guy. We have two #2 receivers in Gage and Washington and a bunch of guys who would be lucky to make most NFL squads. I'm not upset or anything. I've just come to realize that it's the way things are with this team. Winning isn't as important as putting a product on the field. If that product happens to win a few games - great. If not, at least they didn't spend a lot of money.

when was philly's most recent SB? dallas? Buffalo? san diego? i mean there are lots of teams who do not win championships...we have only lost 1 playoff game in blowout fashion and that was Oakland...i mean we dominated Baltimore in 2000 and fluke plays kept us from the SB...this past yr we have fumbles that did not happen during the season occur at the wrong time and we lose by three...we lost to NE by 3 on the last drive thanks to a BS penalty and Drew...we lost to san diego because brown fumbled and vince sucks...i mean we have BEEN to a super bowl that we lost by 1 yard which is a lot more than most teams in the league....so what happens if we splurge sign tons of people an still dont win a championship (yes that IS POSSIBLE) you be content with the 5 yrs of 3-13 trying to recover? heck we may be like the 9ers now...we may NEVER recover. i myself am content with being a TEAM and having a shot at the title. i mean if we were losing playoff games by 20 then obviously the talent isnt there. But when you lose them on basically a coin flip that is just hard luck....oddly enough (i know its hard to believe as crazed fans as we are) but fisher wants to win just as badly as any of us if not more. He has been around the league forever and he knows what we need and what we dont. If he really wanted to sign player X it would get done. best case scenario is to hope for a title every 10 years or so...(with exceptions like NE and Pitt) so in the mean time you better start being content with something we do

Rolltide14TOMB
04-18-2009, 02:37 PM
being a bama fan i have seen the top and seen the bottom....and once things get going south they go there in a hurry. those 8 loss seasons are unbearable...i mean not being in contention is like hell....no meaning to the games...no excitement..its just not for me....im quite happy we went 13-4 last year because that is a damn good season. If you are only content with winning championships then you will never be happy (yes that was from a bama fan)

Volunteers10
04-18-2009, 09:26 PM
I know Anquan Boldin is the popular name around football right now, but he's not a receiver that can dominate a football game. He's been good for a few years, but he's in a pass happy offense with Kurt Warner throwing to him. Also, he's covered by team's #2 cornerbacks and taking advantage of having Larry Fitzgerald with him.

Whatever team he goes to, he is going to underachieve and be overpaid.

Rolltide14TOMB
04-18-2009, 11:01 PM
That was a brillian post vols....not that i dont think Boldin is good but I agree wholeheartedly....he is the hot name now..but ive changed my mind again i agree with you :p

Titans and Turtles
04-18-2009, 11:50 PM
when was philly's most recent SB? dallas? Buffalo? san diego? i mean there are lots of teams who do not win championships...we have only lost 1 playoff game in blowout fashion and that was Oakland...i mean we dominated Baltimore in 2000 and fluke plays kept us from the SB...this past yr we have fumbles that did not happen during the season occur at the wrong time and we lose by three...we lost to NE by 3 on the last drive thanks to a BS penalty and Drew...we lost to san diego because brown fumbled and vince sucks...i mean we have BEEN to a super bowl that we lost by 1 yard which is a lot more than most teams in the league....so what happens if we splurge sign tons of people an still dont win a championship (yes that IS POSSIBLE) you be content with the 5 yrs of 3-13 trying to recover? heck we may be like the 9ers now...we may NEVER recover. i myself am content with being a TEAM and having a shot at the title. i mean if we were losing playoff games by 20 then obviously the talent isnt there. But when you lose them on basically a coin flip that is just hard luck....oddly enough (i know its hard to believe as crazed fans as we are) but fisher wants to win just as badly as any of us if not more. He has been around the league forever and he knows what we need and what we dont. If he really wanted to sign player X it would get done. best case scenario is to hope for a title every 10 years or so...(with exceptions like NE and Pitt) so in the mean time you better start being content with something we do

When you lose a single coin flip, it's bad luck. When you seem to lose 20 coin flips in a row, it's time to blow the other team out by enough that one "flukey" fumble or int or injury doesn't equalize an otherwise dominating performance.

Our team dominated Baltimore statistically in the playoffs, but one injury and a couple of fumbles gave away the game. If we had one legitimate deep threat wideout, we would have been up by 20, like the Colts did to the ratbirds in the regular season, and the fumbles would not have been enough to complete offset our otherwise dominating performance.

We've lost a pro-bowler and added role players. We have a metric ton of players to resign after this year, and if we do have another strong year, enough of them will have done well enough to earn a decent payday, and we'll never pay all of them.

When your window's there, you take a shot. If anyone could look at what our f.o. has done this year as "taking our shot", please explain it to me, because I'm not seeing it.

TTP77
04-19-2009, 09:47 AM
Shrug, I've become fairly lukewarm about Boldin. The talent has been there in the past but now you have to be concerned a bit about the injury history and continued effectiveness in the future. Plus, I wonder how happy he would be here if he's not been happy in the pass happy O the Cards run. Also, he seems to have caught Drew Rosenhaus disease and I frankly want no part of it.

What concerns me more about the Titans is their inability to evaluate WR talent and draft good receivers. Wouldn't we be better served by drafting the next Boldin? Of course but does anyone have confidence that our scouts can identify who that might be? I sure don't.

Yvette
04-19-2009, 12:03 PM
Of course but does anyone have confidence that our scouts can identify who that might be? I sure don't.
If they do, does anyone listen is my next question. For all we know our scouts may be frothing and foaming at the mouth about a stud WR, and the FO is saying no, we don't need/draft first round WR.

I was shocked when they drafted Tyrone Calico but he did show promise before Roy Williams took him out. I guess another question is who was still on the clock after Calico, and is a legit #1 somewhere?

TTP77
04-19-2009, 12:08 PM
I agree Yvette and also pose this question: Is it inability to grade WR's in the draft or inability to develop the ones we do draft? I still think Calico could have developed into a good receiver were it not for his injury plus I do think he was a bit lazy and not too keen on rehabbing and putting forth the effort to be an elite receiver.

Rolltide14TOMB
04-19-2009, 02:59 PM
Did we get him yet???? Did we did we did we???? :wacko

Sect309Fan
04-19-2009, 03:19 PM
Personally, I like how we are modelling our franchise like the Steelers and not the Cowboys. We will win a Super Bowl well before a team like the Cowboys wins another one.

Rolltide14TOMB
04-19-2009, 03:31 PM
When you lose a single coin flip, it's bad luck. When you seem to lose 20 coin flips in a row, it's time to blow the other team out by enough that one "flukey" fumble or int or injury doesn't equalize an otherwise dominating performance.

Our team dominated Baltimore statistically in the playoffs, but one injury and a couple of fumbles gave away the game. If we had one legitimate deep threat wideout, we would have been up by 20, like the Colts did to the ratbirds in the regular season, and the fumbles would not have been enough to complete offset our otherwise dominating performance.

We've lost a pro-bowler and added role players. We have a metric ton of players to resign after this year, and if we do have another strong year, enough of them will have done well enough to earn a decent payday, and we'll never pay all of them.

When your window's there, you take a shot. If anyone could look at what our f.o. has done this year as "taking our shot", please explain it to me, because I'm not seeing it.


we have....1. Beat buffalo 2. Beat Indy 3. Beat Jax 4. lost the Super Bowl 5. lost to baltimore(so did the rest of the league) 6. beat pitt 7.lost to oakland 8. beat ravens 9. lost to NE (so did the rest of the league) 10. Lost to SD 11. Lost to baltimore

i wouldnt say "20 in a row"...just exactly what "shot" do you want? 100 million for albert just to prove to you we wanna win? ray lewis? I mean the only player that would have been great is Jay Cutler. what if in 2007 we traded our first round pick for LT (like im sure you would have done) and he got hurt (like he did) was unproductive and what-not..we would have never gotten chris johnson, or possibly jason jones...we have had the best record in the NFL twice in the last 10 years, been to 2 championship games, and 1 Super Bowl...for as small a market team as we are that is unreal...i mean it would be nice to sign manning, moss, ed reed and have an AFC pro bowl team but i dont see it happening...let me ask you this? what exactly would YOU have done this off-season?
i wouldnt change a thing..except i would have strongly considered trading the farm draft wise for Cutler...but its not like that isnt a risk-less investment either

Titanico
04-19-2009, 04:43 PM
Fisher will always try to make his team without big names and without millionaire contracts. While that will be a boost (food) for the media to be talking more about the Titans, the truth is that we had found ways to be respected and to do things that many teams couldn't (read: Dallas).

We surely need a Super Bowl win. We need to ring the bell, but so far this team is a respected one.

Titans and Turtles
04-19-2009, 05:26 PM
we have....1. Beat buffalo 2. Beat Indy 3. Beat Jax 4. lost the Super Bowl 5. lost to baltimore(so did the rest of the league) 6. beat pitt 7.lost to oakland 8. beat ravens 9. lost to NE (so did the rest of the league) 10. Lost to SD 11. Lost to baltimore

i wouldnt say "20 in a row"...just exactly what "shot" do you want? 100 million for albert just to prove to you we wanna win? ray lewis? I mean the only player that would have been great is Jay Cutler. what if in 2007 we traded our first round pick for LT (like im sure you would have done) and he got hurt (like he did) was unproductive and what-not..we would have never gotten chris johnson, or possibly jason jones...we have had the best record in the NFL twice in the last 10 years, been to 2 championship games, and 1 Super Bowl...for as small a market team as we are that is unreal...i mean it would be nice to sign manning, moss, ed reed and have an AFC pro bowl team but i dont see it happening...let me ask you this? what exactly would YOU have done this off-season?
i wouldnt change a thing..except i would have strongly considered trading the farm draft wise for Cutler...but its not like that isnt a risk-less investment either

Oh how you forget. You mention the music city miracle, the superbowl appearance, etc. That was done under Floyd Reece who actually DID pursue free agents and trades and take risks to take a shot. And because he did, we got to the superbowl, we had playoff success. Then we had 2 years of cap hell. I don't many fans who would trade in the years we we had in 99-03 just to avoid 04 and 05.

Don't you DARE attribute this team's Superbowl appearance and past playoff success to this current, do-nothing, "SAFE" front office. This franchise, under the much-maligned Reese, at least TRIED to take a shot when our window was there. We paid for it, but we got a superbowl appearance and other playoff success.

Our current F.O. is content to rest on it's laurels. This next 1 or two years is our shot - if we exit those never having done just ONE of these big time deals, we'll all regret our team not trying to do more when our window was open.

And stop throwing Dallas and Washington in my face. Dallas makes multiple of these moves every year, killing chemsitry and destroying any chance to build something. We're not that, and no one here advocates adopting that as a way of life. Big-Time deals are a lousy way to build a franchise. But making ONE big deal when you've built up the right way, like we have, is often the difference between appearing in the playoffs and winning in them.

We don't need to make 4 huge free agent and trade deals every year, like Washington and Dallas. We just need ONE, and we need it NOW, before our window closes.

Sect309Fan
04-19-2009, 05:36 PM
The simple fact is big time deals DO NOT WIN SUPER BOWLS!!!!

Look at the past winners. Steelers, Giants, Steelers, Colts, Patriots. None of them made any huge deals. They drafted well and picked a few smart free agents.

That is what the Titans are trying to do. And in the process, they went from 4-12 to 8-8 to 10-6 and finally to 13-3. They seem to be doing something right.

Rolltide14TOMB
04-19-2009, 05:39 PM
ok but was the Music City Miracle not luck? i mean we are one and done without that play. I know it isnt all about luck but the whole point is that the bounce of the ball can be the difference in EVERYTHING..what if alge's fumble bounced out of bounds at the 1 and we punch it in and go on to win the Super Bowl? I know this didnt happen but i dont think signing a great player impacts a fluke play...and we are never gonna blow teams out all the way through the playoffs...and im not THROWING dallas or washington in your face but im saying that they do what you are saying (to an extent) and FAIL...you still havent answered my question...what would YOU have done differently?
what about KVB? that wasnt a signing? actually it was a damn good one! Kerry Collins has turned out well...we got nate this past year...what about Chris Hope? i know what you are gonna say, "these guys arent randy moss, ed reed, and Tom Brady" they arent champion caliber players...well i think they ARE champion caliber players (hope has one) and only time will tell
i dont know about trading 99-03 to avoid 04-05 or whatever but i KNOW that i will take 13-3 regular season and having a playoff opportunity every year to avoid 04-05 (and MORE bad seasons) cause if we string enough of those together we will eventually get one...pittsburgh tried FOREVER to finally win another (but i guess their organization didnt wanna do what it took to win)

TitansGiantsBears
04-19-2009, 10:32 PM
when was philly's most recent SB? dallas? Buffalo? san diego? i mean there are lots of teams who do not win championships...we have only lost 1 playoff game in blowout fashion and that was Oakland...i mean we dominated Baltimore in 2000 and fluke plays kept us from the SB...this past yr we have fumbles that did not happen during the season occur at the wrong time and we lose by three...we lost to NE by 3 on the last drive thanks to a BS penalty and Drew...we lost to san diego because brown fumbled and vince sucks...i mean we have BEEN to a super bowl that we lost by 1 yard which is a lot more than most teams in the league....so what happens if we splurge sign tons of people an still dont win a championship (yes that IS POSSIBLE) you be content with the 5 yrs of 3-13 trying to recover? heck we may be like the 9ers now...we may NEVER recover. i myself am content with being a TEAM and having a shot at the title. i mean if we were losing playoff games by 20 then obviously the talent isnt there. But when you lose them on basically a coin flip that is just hard luck....oddly enough (i know its hard to believe as crazed fans as we are) but fisher wants to win just as badly as any of us if not more. He has been around the league forever and he knows what we need and what we dont. If he really wanted to sign player X it would get done. best case scenario is to hope for a title every 10 years or so...(with exceptions like NE and Pitt) so in the mean time you better start being content with something we do

I stand by every word I typed. I don't advocate the Titans selling the farm on tinsel and glitter, but I would rather lose a championship TRYING to win one than to merely be content we didn't overpay.

The Titans WR corp is a perfect example of the front office's team-building philosophy. They seem perfectly content with WR's on the current roster. Sure, they may add a 3rd-5th rounder for depth in camp, but they're not alarmed by the talent at the position. A 13-3 record is great, but how much better could this team have been last year with even a remote threat at that position to relieve pressure off the running game? The Titans FO doesn't seem to understand that a team is only as strong as its weakest link.

It's one thing to say, "Let's not break the bank" for a player but you get what you pay for in most instances. You have to spend money on SOMEBODY though. You cannot consistently expect to make the playoffs with a team filled with veteran minimum players and rookie contracts. I'd much rather have a 3-5 year window of contention followed by a few years of rebuilding and "cap hell" than to field a 10-6 to 12-4 team for ten straight years that loses in the playoffs because it lacks a player or two to get it over the top.

Rolltide14TOMB
04-19-2009, 10:45 PM
he Titans WR corp is a perfect example of the teams run the ball first philosophy
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i dont think "a player or 2" is gonna get us over the top unless its primetime QB...a primetime receiver will hardly guarantee we get over the top...i mean the pats won all their titles PRE-MOSS...it might make the games more entertaining but i dont think a receiver will "put us over the top"...i think when we have homefield advantage that we should come out and take care of the ball and play like we are capable of playing and THAT will get us over the top

Toronto
04-19-2009, 11:07 PM
I stand by every word I typed. I don't advocate the Titans selling the farm on tinsel and glitter, but I would rather lose a championship TRYING to win one than to merely be content we didn't overpay.

The Titans WR corp is a perfect example of the front office's team-building philosophy. They seem perfectly content with WR's on the current roster. Sure, they may add a 3rd-5th rounder for depth in camp, but they're not alarmed by the talent at the position. A 13-3 record is great, but how much better could this team have been last year with even a remote threat at that position to relieve pressure off the running game? The Titans FO doesn't seem to understand that a team is only as strong as its weakest link.

It's one thing to say, "Let's not break the bank" for a player but you get what you pay for in most instances. You have to spend money on SOMEBODY though. You cannot consistently expect to make the playoffs with a team filled with veteran minimum players and rookie contracts. I'd much rather have a 3-5 year window of contention followed by a few years of rebuilding and "cap hell" than to field a 10-6 to 12-4 team for ten straight years that loses in the playoffs because it lacks a player or two to get it over the top.

As much as it pains me to say this - the team did take a huge risk and ponied up a monster contract. To Vince Young. :crazy

TitansGiantsBears
04-19-2009, 11:38 PM
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i dont think "a player or 2" is gonna get us over the top unless its primetime QB...a primetime receiver will hardly guarantee we get over the top...i mean the pats won all their titles PRE-MOSS...it might make the games more entertaining but i dont think a receiver will "put us over the top"...i think when we have homefield advantage that we should come out and take care of the ball and play like we are capable of playing and THAT will get us over the top

Not fixed.

It's imperative for a team with a run first philosophy to have a WR that can take pressure off the running game. CJ has the natural speed to create some openings on his own when faced with teams stacking the LOS on him. It was painfully obvious in the playoff loss to Baltimore that LW doesn't.

It is important to this scheme (my favorite scheme in all of football by the way) to have WR's who are solid blockers. That still doesn't negate the need for a WR who can keep defenses honest. In this scheme you need a go-to guy for those 3rd and 8 and 3rd and 12 situations you'll inevitably face.

I'm not saying one receiver will put this team over the top. Sadly, it wouldn't matter if would. This organization is too cheap to pay for it. If it came to one player being the difference in going 10-6 and one and done in the playoffs or honestly competing for the Lombardi Trophy, you can bet they'll sign a cheaper player and take the 10-6 and be happy they didn't "overpay".

There is a fine line to walk between overpaying and astute fiscal management.

Rolltide14TOMB
04-19-2009, 11:39 PM
As much as it pains me to say this - the team did take a huge risk and ponied up a monster contract. To Vince Young.


:cry:cry:facepalm

Mike McFan
04-20-2009, 09:39 AM
I stand by every word I typed. I don't advocate the Titans selling the farm on tinsel and glitter, but I would rather lose a championship TRYING to win one than to merely be content we didn't overpay.

The Titans WR corp is a perfect example of the front office's team-building philosophy. They seem perfectly content with WR's on the current roster. Sure, they may add a 3rd-5th rounder for depth in camp, but they're not alarmed by the talent at the position. A 13-3 record is great, but how much better could this team have been last year with even a remote threat at that position to relieve pressure off the running game? The Titans FO doesn't seem to understand that a team is only as strong as its weakest link.

It's one thing to say, "Let's not break the bank" for a player but you get what you pay for in most instances. You have to spend money on SOMEBODY though. You cannot consistently expect to make the playoffs with a team filled with veteran minimum players and rookie contracts. I'd much rather have a 3-5 year window of contention followed by a few years of rebuilding and "cap hell" than to field a 10-6 to 12-4 team for ten straight years that loses in the playoffs because it lacks a player or two to get it over the top.

Well said !:thumbsup

wari0
04-20-2009, 10:37 AM
I stand by every word I typed. I don't advocate the Titans selling the farm on tinsel and glitter, but I would rather lose a championship TRYING to win one than to merely be content we didn't overpay.

The Titans WR corp is a perfect example of the front office's team-building philosophy. They seem perfectly content with WR's on the current roster. Sure, they may add a 3rd-5th rounder for depth in camp, but they're not alarmed by the talent at the position. A 13-3 record is great, but how much better could this team have been last year with even a remote threat at that position to relieve pressure off the running game? The Titans FO doesn't seem to understand that a team is only as strong as its weakest link.

It's one thing to say, "Let's not break the bank" for a player but you get what you pay for in most instances. You have to spend money on SOMEBODY though. You cannot consistently expect to make the playoffs with a team filled with veteran minimum players and rookie contracts. I'd much rather have a 3-5 year window of contention followed by a few years of rebuilding and "cap hell" than to field a 10-6 to 12-4 team for ten straight years that loses in the playoffs because it lacks a player or two to get it over the top.

Nate Washington may be a remote threat with his speed right? And you have to give them credit for locking up a young guy for 6 years! Plus they do seem to be at least trying to make a play for Torry Holt. In previous years Id agree with your post but, this year they seem to be actively trying to upgrade the talent at the position. After the last couple of years, Im not questioning the FO like I used to. They really seem to have a good plan in place each year.

Rolltide14TOMB
04-20-2009, 12:39 PM
Nate Washington may be a remote threat with his speed right? And you have to give them credit for locking up a young guy for 6 years! Plus they do seem to be at least trying to make a play for Torry Holt. In previous years Id agree with your post but, this year they seem to be actively trying to upgrade the talent at the position. After the last couple of years, Im not questioning the FO like I used to. They really seem to have a good plan in place each year.


:thumbsup

Bobcat
04-20-2009, 02:29 PM
Nate Washington may be a remote threat with his speed right? And you have to give them credit for locking up a young guy for 6 years! Plus they do seem to be at least trying to make a play for Torry Holt. In previous years Id agree with your post but, this year they seem to be actively trying to upgrade the talent at the position. After the last couple of years, Im not questioning the FO like I used to. They really seem to have a good plan in place each year.

I agree completely. In previous years we'd pick up a copy of the paper, grab the sports section, lay it on the floor, and let the dog use it to practice getting housebroken.

This year is definitely a change. Even if we don't get Holt, you can't fault our FO for not trying.

Rolltide14TOMB
04-20-2009, 02:37 PM
we'd pick up a copy of the paper, grab the sports section, lay it on the floor, and let the dog use it to practice getting housebroken.


with some of the things i read this may just show our FO's intelligence

OhioTitan
04-20-2009, 09:10 PM
Nate Washington may be a remote threat with his speed right? And you have to give them credit for locking up a young guy for 6 years! Plus they do seem to be at least trying to make a play for Torry Holt. In previous years Id agree with your post but, this year they seem to be actively trying to upgrade the talent at the position. After the last couple of years, Im not questioning the FO like I used to. They really seem to have a good plan in place each year.


AMEN to this! Just because we don't spend big bucks in the FA period doesn't mean we aren't trying to win... The Redskins spend and arm and a leg every year it seems and they have been mediocre for years.

When is the last time the Steelers made a huge free agency move? And the Colts? The Patriots are the same was well, Adalius Thomas is the only big bucks player they've brought in but I think we can agree he definitely had the value for the money. And remember Randy Moss was through a trade.

Basically what I am saying is the organizations that have been competitors year in and year out do it through player development and the draft. Sure a FA is good here and there to plug holes but wanting us to spend for every big name isn't worth it and it can actually hurt more in the end.

TitansGiantsBears
04-21-2009, 05:18 AM
Nate Washington may be a remote threat with his speed right? And you have to give them credit for locking up a young guy for 6 years! Plus they do seem to be at least trying to make a play for Torry Holt. In previous years Id agree with your post but, this year they seem to be actively trying to upgrade the talent at the position. After the last couple of years, Im not questioning the FO like I used to. They really seem to have a good plan in place each year.

I agree 100% that Washington is a good move for the FO. The dropoff from Gage and Washington is steep though. This team still needs a couple of good receivers. We now know that Holt is a Jag. I'm not really upset with the team for not getting the deal done. There's no way I would want them to use that kind of money on a player Holt's age and with suspect knees. I thought he could make the Titans a reliable route-runner who could get open on third down and bring a solid veteran presence to the locker room to teach the younger guys. Didn't happen, but at $20m over three years it wasn't a wise move.

TitansGiantsBears
04-21-2009, 05:37 AM
AMEN to this! Just because we don't spend big bucks in the FA period doesn't mean we aren't trying to win... The Redskins spend and arm and a leg every year it seems and they have been mediocre for years.

When is the last time the Steelers made a huge free agency move? And the Colts? The Patriots are the same was well, Adalius Thomas is the only big bucks player they've brought in but I think we can agree he definitely had the value for the money. And remember Randy Moss was through a trade.

Basically what I am saying is the organizations that have been competitors year in and year out do it through player development and the draft. Sure a FA is good here and there to plug holes but wanting us to spend for every big name isn't worth it and it can actually hurt more in the end.

Who says anyone wants to spend big money for every big name. I don't care how big the name is, but the Titans consistently target guys who play a role on the team, not playmakers.

The Colts and Steelers win primarily because they're better at finding playmakers and evaluating draft talent than the Titans. The Pats have brought in many players from the outside to build their teams with - Thomas, Harrison, Galloway, Moss, Stallworth, Fred Taylor, Seau, etc.

There's a time to invest and a time to conserve. The Titans conserve on every move. They will not compete for a top-notch player even when they need to. They'd rather bring in some guy who couldn't start for Baltimore, Tampa Bay, or Detroit, make a starter out of him despite that he struggles to get open, have him catch 35-50 balls, and pay him three years for 4 million than bring in a guy who has produced elsewhere and wants 12 million for those same three years. Unfortunately, you get what you pay for.

It's not just at the WR position either. It's at every position on this team. The Titans want to do it on the cheap and put a product on the field. They're not interested in winning a championship as long as they field a product that's cost-efficient.

Sect309Fan
04-21-2009, 06:20 AM
They're not interested in winning a championship as long as they field a product that's cost-efficient.

:crazy

I really wonder about some of you. :doh

TTP77
04-21-2009, 07:45 AM
Who says anyone wants to spend big money for every big name. I don't care how big the name is, but the Titans consistently target guys who play a role on the team, not playmakers.

A bit overstated but also I think role players are vastly underrated. The Titans have also spent money on players thought to be playmakers....Thigpen and Givens come to mind. There are others. What has paying outrageous money in FA brought Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder?


The Colts and Steelers win primarily because they're better at finding playmakers and evaluating draft talent than the Titans. The Pats have brought in many players from the outside to build their teams with - Thomas, Harrison, Galloway, Moss, Stallworth, Fred Taylor, Seau, etc.

Travis Henry back in the day. David Thornton, Nick Harper, Jake Scott, Nate Washington, Kevin Carter, etc....What would you call those guys?


It's not just at the WR position either. It's at every position on this team. The Titans want to do it on the cheap and put a product on the field. They're not interested in winning a championship as long as they field a product that's cost-efficient.

Also a bit overstated. We paid good money for the guys mentioned above. We extended key players on our team in the past few years. Finnegan. Vinnie Fuller. Big Country. Roos. The fact of the matter is that you can win championships and be fiscally responsible. The Steelers and the Pats have shown that to be true. The Titans were on the verge of doing it last year if not for a couple of unfortunate turnovers.

Titans and Turtles
04-21-2009, 03:48 PM
:crazy

I really wonder about some of you. :doh

What, exactly WHAT have you seen, Mr. 309 man, that would suggest to you that winning a championship is more important than staying cost-efficient to this organization?

Maybe you have an endless appetite for the "we will not overpay" kool-aid, but some of us would like to see this team actually act as if doing any better than a one and done playoff appearance mattered to this organization.

Nintova
04-21-2009, 04:04 PM
Being a fan of sports must be very painful for you. You find no joy in it at all.

Sect309Fan
04-21-2009, 04:07 PM
What, exactly WHAT have you seen, Mr. 309 man, that would suggest to you that winning a championship is more important than staying cost-efficient to this organization? .


The results of the last three years, of course.

The Titans have signed key free agents that were either on Super Bowl champion teams or were multiple Pro Bowlers. These guys have been key in strengthening a team devasted by the cap. They have drafted fairly well, the last three #1 picks all going to Pro Bowls (the last two elected to it). The Titans have given large contracts to our key young players so they will be around for a long time.

The Titans didn't make the Super Bowl this past year due to a freak injury to our #1 offensive threat and crazy turnovers in the red zone. The team was a Super Bowl team. We destroyed the Super Bowl champions in the regular season. Luck just wasn't with us that day.

The Titans have made some good free agent moves this year. We have kept key players and signed a deep threat in Nate Washington. We have also helped strengthen our d-line with Jovan Hayes and have attempted to replace Carr with Mark Jones.

I see a front office that is doing a great job giving the top NFL team a good chance to stay at the top. Sure, we did lose Haynesworth, and that was probably a mistake made in the 2008 offseason. But the Titans should still be a top 10 defensive team (barring crazy injuries to our starters).

The Titans are definitely committed to winning a championship. Going from 4-12 to 8-8 to 10-6 to 13-3 shows that they are on the right track. :thumbsup

Rolltide14TOMB
04-21-2009, 05:12 PM
The Colts and Steelers win primarily because they're better at finding playmakers and evaluating draft talent than the Titans. The Pats

http://images.smarter.com/blogs/peyton2.jpg

http://blog.kir.com/archives/images/TomBrady%20010708.jpg


http://blog.ingamenow.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/roethlisberger_ben1.jpg

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/09/16-22/vince-young-titans-missing-police-suicide-watch-collins.jpg

THIS IS WHAT SEPARATES US FROM THEM AND NOOOOTHHHHHHHHHIIIINNNGGGG ELSE

Nintova
04-21-2009, 05:51 PM
Young didn't play most of last year ... and as I recall we had a better record than all of them. The post season had some hiccups .. but we were the team nobody wanted to face. Sorry, not drinking from that pitcher of Kool-aide mate. The Steelers needed help to get in, then took advantage of the opportunity. They weren't heads and shoulders above us.

Rolltide14TOMB
04-21-2009, 07:46 PM
Young didn't play most of last year ... and as I recall we had a better record than all of them. The post season had some hiccups .. but we were the team nobody wanted to face. Sorry, not drinking from that pitcher of Kool-aide mate. The Steelers needed help to get in, then took advantage of the opportunity. They weren't heads and shoulders above us.

These QBs are the reason they have won Super Bowls..there are 2 many of them to be quincidital....its rare a "kerry" esk QB wins it all...it happens but rarely

TitansGiantsBears
04-21-2009, 09:39 PM
THIS IS WHAT SEPARATES US FROM THEM AND NOOOOTHHHHHHHHHIIIINNNGGGG ELSE

Exactly what separates us from them. If you're going to build through the draft then you need to be excellent at evaluating talent - something this organization hasn't been. They're hit and miss. I remember on the old board, I did a thread comparing the Colts vs. Titans drafting since 2003 (I think. It's been awhile.) Despite having many less picks than the Titans in the time frame the Colts picked up several more starters or contributors than the Titans.

All I'm saying is that if it comes down to winning a championship or not overpaying, this team will choose the option of not paying players. It's that simple.

shadowboxin'
04-21-2009, 10:04 PM
It's one thing to not spend money if you have other priorities. But all of our UFA's are re-signed here or elsewhere and the money is still collecting dust. They're not rollover minutes, you can't save the money and add it to your cap for next year. And no, I didn't want us to shell out 100 mil to retain Haynesworth... we have the cash to sign role players (similiar to what NE does) at certain need positions like CB and WR, and if I'm given the choice I'd rather suffer a low-cost FA bust than a first-round draft bust.

Show me the money, damnit.

OhioTitan
04-22-2009, 12:01 AM
The Pats have brought in many players from the outside to build their teams with - Thomas, Harrison, Galloway, Moss, Stallworth, Fred Taylor, Seau, etc.



I find it interesting that two of yoru examples (Galloway and Taylor) haven't even played a snap for the Patriots, and Stallworth was pretty much worthless in his time in New England. When I said they don't win because of free agents I meant good free agents. The Titans pick up old guys and scrubs as well. Again, Moss was through a trade so the only IMPACT and YOUNG free agents the Patriots have gotten would be Thomas. (Harrison had 9 years in the league before joining).

All I am saying is that the teams mentioned before draft well and develop their players which is what we need to do and continue to do.

Quarterback play is very important and we haven't had a great or even solid quarter back as do the big three (Pitt, NE, Indy) in recent history. And yes, KC did well managing the games but I was never comfortable in leading the Titans to a comeback win, he has never had the big play consistency of a Manning, Brady, or even Roethelisberger.

Going back to our early Titans days and looking at the signing of Carl Pickens and Yancey Thigpen, to recent history of David Givens and somewhat the return of JMac, getting FA receivers has a worse track record than our drafting guys.

With Nate Washington and an impact guy in the draft like Harvin or Heyward-Bey will do wonders for our offense that Tory Holt could have never dreamed of achieving.

I, for one, look forward to Finnegan sticking him when we play the Hags.



GO TITANS!

Titans and Turtles
04-22-2009, 12:57 AM
I find it interesting that two of yoru examples (Galloway and Taylor) haven't even played a snap for the Patriots, and Stallworth was pretty much worthless in his time in New England. When I said they don't win because of free agents I meant good free agents. The Titans pick up old guys and scrubs as well. Again, Moss was through a trade so the only IMPACT and YOUNG free agents the Patriots have gotten would be Thomas. (Harrison had 9 years in the league before joining).

All I am saying is that the teams mentioned before draft well and develop their players which is what we need to do and continue to do.

Quarterback play is very important and we haven't had a great or even solid quarter back as do the big three (Pitt, NE, Indy) in recent history. And yes, KC did well managing the games but I was never comfortable in leading the Titans to a comeback win, he has never had the big play consistency of a Manning, Brady, or even Roethelisberger.

Going back to our early Titans days and looking at the signing of Carl Pickens and Yancey Thigpen, to recent history of David Givens and somewhat the return of JMac, getting FA receivers has a worse track record than our drafting guys.

With Nate Washington and an impact guy in the draft like Harvin or Heyward-Bey will do wonders for our offense that Tory Holt could have never dreamed of achieving.

I, for one, look forward to Finnegan sticking him when we play the Hags.



GO TITANS!

You keep pointing out that Moss was a trade. So too would Boldin be for us. In addition, picking up Givens and JMac - if you buy discount, bargain-bin free agents, you get garbage players.

Again, I don't advocate changing the entire philosophy of this team. I don't want to become a perrennial spendthrift wheeling and dealing big names all the time like Dallas and Washington. We just have a window open now and the cap room to make something happen. I truly don't feel any sense of urgency by the front office to win a championship - just keep a good enough team on the field that we keep the ticket money rolling in. Just the way Bottom-Line Bud wants it.

silvertitan
04-22-2009, 01:54 AM
all i am going to say on this subject is almost all i see is when we were in cap hell people were complaining that we need to do better in money management and keep the big players on this team now that we have a surplus in cap some of those very same people are some of the biggest complainers that we dont spend enough money or that we dont care about a championship.

Lets look at well at all the MR haters if my history serves me correctly MR and his draft talents helped take a very dismal seattle team and helped turn them into a contender then took them to there first superbowl

But we live in an age of What Have You Done For ME!!! Today

So if we dont win a championship but we make the playoffs its no good

And if we make the playoffs (granted with some bad ball control moments) but show much improvment throughout an entire season set many records as well for the franchise that we are a failure because we did not take that jump that ONE out of THIRTY TWO teams makes a year which is the superbowl then we are nothing but people who dont care about a championship fire the coach and the gm hell lets fire bud as well.

All i am saying is let relax i have seen better teams fold in the playoffs

We could have the same issues the Detroit Lions fans have

so to end my rant Lets be happy and realize its a work in progress

sorry bout the long rant

disclaimer

this rant is not aimed at anyone in general or to down anyones opinions in general

Titans and Turtles
04-22-2009, 02:03 AM
all i am going to say on this subject is almost all i see is when we were in cap hell people were complaining that we need to do better in money management and keep the big players on this team now that we have a surplus in cap some of those very same people are some of the biggest complainers that we dont spend enough money or that we dont care about a championship.

Lets look at well at all the MR haters if my history serves me correctly MR and his draft talents helped take a very dismal seattle team and helped turn them into a contender then took them to there first superbowl

But we live in an age of What Have You Done For ME!!! Today

So if we dont win a championship but we make the playoffs its no good

And if we make the playoffs (granted with some bad ball control moments) but show much improvment throughout an entire season set many records as well for the franchise that we are a failure because we did not take that jump that ONE out of THIRTY TWO teams makes a year which is the superbowl then we are nothing but people who dont care about a championship fire the coach and the gm hell lets fire bud as well.

All i am saying is let relax i have seen better teams fold in the playoffs

We could have the same issues the Detroit Lions fans have

so to end my rant Lets be happy and realize its a work in progress

sorry bout the long rant

disclaimer

this rant is not aimed at anyone in general or to down anyones opinions in general

This is the exact attitude Bud is counting on. We do enough to "Not be the Lions", and we'll keep the stadium filled.

Sect309Fan
04-22-2009, 06:58 AM
You keep pointing out that Moss was a trade. So too would Boldin be for us. In addition, picking up Givens and JMac - if you buy discount, bargain-bin free agents, you get garbage players. t.

Wow! You think Givens was a discount, bargin-bin free agent? :crazy

If you think Givens was one, I hate to see what you think about Nate Washington. I assume you think he came in a box of Cracker Jacks.



Some of you foolishly believe that all the Titans have to do is pony up a 1st and a 3rd round pick, and Boldin is ours. (George Plaster and his crew certainly aren't helping) Do you guys even think about the fact that our 1st and 3rd is worth less than almost every other team's 1st and 3rd picks? Don't you think that the Cardinals want a good young player in return as well?

I am getting sick of this "we have to get Boldin or the Titans don't care about Super Bowls" attitude. :mad: Does anyone in their right mind think that Bud Adams doesn't want a Super Bowl championship before he dies? Does anyone think that Jeff Fisher doesn't want to end his career like Bill Cowher, with a championship?

These guys are trying to win a championship, and the results of the last three years shows that they are on the right track.

TTP77
04-22-2009, 07:09 AM
It's one thing to not spend money if you have other priorities. But all of our UFA's are re-signed here or elsewhere and the money is still collecting dust. They're not rollover minutes, you can't save the money and add it to your cap for next year. And no, I didn't want us to shell out 100 mil to retain Haynesworth... we have the cash to sign role players (similiar to what NE does) at certain need positions like CB and WR, and if I'm given the choice I'd rather suffer a low-cost FA bust than a first-round draft bust.

Show me the money, damnit.

We signed Rob Bironas to a contract as well as Vinnie Fuller. We tagged Bo. Not all of UFA's went elsewhere. In signing those contracts we used a portion of our cap space. We have a lot of UFA's after this next season and that cap money will be used to sign at least some of them plus our draft selections. You can't spend all your cap money and leave yourself open to not being able to plan for the future and retain a reserve in case a rash of injuries strike, which has happened to us in the past.

EDIT: We also signed Mark Jones, JeVon Haye and Faggins. FA is a process. Teams will release other players after the draft and camp. Also, we re-signed Kerry to a nice little contract meaning we have good money tied up in the position if you consider Vince and Patrick Ramsey, who we signed as well.

TitansGiantsBears
04-24-2009, 06:19 AM
Does anyone in their right mind think that Bud Adams doesn't want a Super Bowl championship before he dies? Does anyone think that Jeff Fisher doesn't want to end his career like Bill Cowher, with a championship?



If they can do it on the cheap, sure. :lol

Mike McFan
04-24-2009, 03:13 PM
:rant uh, oh...
309's gonna explode !:lol

shadowboxin'
04-24-2009, 03:21 PM
GM Rod Graves told KTAR this morning that the club one received one official trade offer for receiver Anquan Boldin. Apparently the offer didn't amount to much and Boldin remains a Cardinal.

The Jets, Ravens and Titans have at least made contact with the Cardinals about Boldin. The Titans' interest, I was told, was fairly casual. They called to gauge what the Cardinals might be looking for and said they would monitor the situation.

An offer for Anquan (http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KentSomers/51768)

And, per rotoworld...


ESPN News passes on a report from Sal Paolantonio that the Cardinals have lowered their asking price for Anquan Boldin.

According to Sal Pal, the Cardinals are now seeking just a second-rounder and an additional player. One team is reportedly "all over" Boldin now. The Eagles and Giants may have entered the race along with the Ravens, Jets, and Titans now that a first-rounder isn't required.

titansikou
04-24-2009, 03:43 PM
I can't imagine who we could offer as a player though. I'm guessing that the Cards are going to want a defensive player. Who could go?

My other thought was to trade Scaife. Not that I'd want to nor do I know if it's permitted, but then you'd find a way to please two unhappy air guys.

Rolltide14TOMB
04-24-2009, 04:07 PM
Sec 309 is right on the money with this whole situation

Rolltide14TOMB
04-24-2009, 04:10 PM
Guys im excited as well to see what happens...BUT we are going to be pretty damn good regardless and i certaintly do not want to give up any of our defense....i have grown to like 20-13 games...i however do not want the TItans to ever be a 45-42 team...if you think we cant win a super bowl now we FOR SURE couldnt win one changing our philosophy....you have to have a premier QB to play that style and we just have a solid guy...

TitansFan23
04-24-2009, 04:15 PM
The Arizona Cardinals have reduced their trade demands for disgruntled receiver Anquan Boldin to a second-round pick in Saturday's draft and other considerations and are talking to at least three teams who seem to be newly interested, two sources told ESPN's Sal Paolantonio on Friday.

The New York Jets, New York Giants and Philadelphia Eagles have expressed interest given the downgraded demands from a first- and third-round pick, the sources said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4096399

Nothing in there about the Titans.

Sect309Fan
04-24-2009, 04:24 PM
Sec 309 is right on the money with this whole situation

I have a fan. :blush

PBV
04-24-2009, 04:27 PM
LenDale White-RB- Titans Apr. 24 - 4:23 pm et


Scout.com's Adam Caplan reports the Cardinals are "gathering information on" Titans RBs LenDale White and Chris Henry.
White or Henry plus a second-round picks would be a no-brainer for the Titans, but the Cardinals should be aiming higher at running back.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_previousnews.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3637

Give them both RB's.

Sect309Fan
04-24-2009, 04:30 PM
LenDale White-RB- Titans Apr. 24 - 4:23 pm et


Scout.com's Adam Caplan reports the Cardinals are "gathering information on" Titans RBs LenDale White and Chris Henry.
White or Henry plus a second-round picks would be a no-brainer for the Titans, but the Cardinals should be aiming higher at running back.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_previousnews.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3637

Give them both RB's.

Throw in Ganther if you need to. ;)

BJShan
04-24-2009, 04:33 PM
Henry + a second rounder for a top flight receiver would be one crazy trade.

Rolltide14TOMB
04-24-2009, 05:20 PM
I have a fan.


well when your right your right...and since u usually agree with me......:lol

PBV
04-24-2009, 05:20 PM
Anquan Boldin-WR- Cardinals Apr. 24 - 5:05 pm et


Cardinals GM Rod Graves denies that the Cardinals have dropped their asking price on Anquan Boldin -- or that there ever was one.
"None of that is true," Graves said. "We've never said what we were looking for. All we've said is that we're willing to listen and certainly would consider something of commensurate value." Larry Fitzgerald doesn't believe Boldin wants to get traded, and Graves insists that an extension is more likely than a trade.
Source: Arizona Republic
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_previousnews.aspx?sport=NFL&id=2078

TitansFan23
04-24-2009, 06:32 PM
Graves must have heard the Titans were trying to unload Henry on them.

TitansFan23
04-24-2009, 06:36 PM
Just reported on ESPN that the Titans have offered a 2nd round pick plus a player to the Cards for Boldin.

Cards have agreed to allow Titans to speak with Boldin's agent.

PBV
04-24-2009, 06:45 PM
Oh god please grant us a playmaking, TD catching mofo of a football player. Also, if you would be so kind as to squish our enemies heads with your loving boot heel.

"I apologize for that, Lord, and please be with all the starving pygmies in New Guinea. Amen."-Larry the cable guy

NYTitan21
04-24-2009, 06:48 PM
Per espnews

titans offered arizona a 2nd rounder and a player for Boldin and have also been granted permission to talk to Drew Rosenhaus about a contract for Q

NYTitan21
04-24-2009, 06:49 PM
Just reported on ESPN that the Titans have offered a 2nd round pick plus a player to the Cards for Boldin.

Cards have agreed to allow Titans to speak with Boldin's agent.

DAMNIT lol

TitansFan23
04-24-2009, 06:49 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4096399

PBV
04-24-2009, 06:50 PM
Sources: Titans to talk deal with Boldin
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4096399

NYTitan21
04-24-2009, 06:50 PM
:wavey:wavey Lendale

TitansFan23
04-24-2009, 06:51 PM
Slowpokes. :p

Titans and Turtles
04-24-2009, 06:52 PM
Oh, Gods of the Gridiron, lords of the 100 yards, you toy with me! Why play the heartstrings of your devoted so?! Why wave our deepest desires in front of our face when you know it shall never come to pass!? Why grant us hope you know to be false and dreams you know to be impossible?!

TitansFan23
04-24-2009, 06:52 PM
:wavey:wavey Lendale

Please let it be :wavey :wavey Chris Henry

TitansFan23
04-24-2009, 06:56 PM
Now ESPN saying the Cards are saying they've received no offer for Boldin.

ESPN you douchebags!

TitansFan23
04-24-2009, 07:02 PM
Who's up for a road-trip to Arizona? :mad: :rant :baseballbat

NYTitan21
04-24-2009, 07:05 PM
Who's up for a road-trip to Arizona? :mad: :rant :baseballbat

im in lets roll.

Rolltide14TOMB
04-24-2009, 07:07 PM
Arizona give us anquan...you lucky ass one timers....nobody cares about the arizona cardinals...you should be honored to even talk with us....you will take lendale and our second and have a smile on your face while watching him in two shades of blue whoopin ass and making us amazing...you on the other and hand off to ld and watch him get 2 yds and a cloud of dust and quad coverage on larry fitz..............exhallllllllle..

TitansFan23
04-24-2009, 07:10 PM
Seriously, do these people not realize how much they're screwing with Titans fans emotions right now? :banghead

NYTitan21
04-24-2009, 07:16 PM
Seriously, do these people not realize how much they're screwing with Titans fans emotions right now? :banghead

we're the small market team, no one cares about our emotions...

Titans and Turtles
04-24-2009, 07:16 PM
Seriously, do these people not realize how much they're screwing with Titans fans emotions right now? :banghead

Seriously. Fans of the giants, the Cowboys, the Skins, the Pats... these teams' fans are used to hearing their team named as possible in every big name deal that goes down.

Us?!? I can't believe we're actually being mentioned as a possiblity. We Titans fans don't know how to handle this sort of thing.

TitansFan23
04-24-2009, 07:22 PM
Now BSPN has changed the story back.


The Cardinals and Tennessee Titans denied a previously reported offer had been accepted or made.

But general manager Rod Graves told Gomez the Cardinals are willing to listen to any offers and have never asked for anything or made "trade demands."

Someone needs to :nutkick Sal Paolantonio.

OhioTitan
04-24-2009, 07:32 PM
I've even been pretty outspoken about getting him and I have to admit I got pretty excited when they first announced it! And now they took it away from us! BOOOOO.

I think with the new price tag he'll definitely be worth it!

Get him Titans!

titansikou
04-24-2009, 07:47 PM
I don't want to see Lendale go... unless we pick up Shonn Greene as a replacement.

MillaKilla8
04-24-2009, 07:51 PM
I honestly don't care if Lendale goes or not. If CJ stays healthy we will be fine...also don't forget about Rafael Little, he has a lot of upside in my opinion.

titansikou
04-24-2009, 07:56 PM
We can't leave our running game in the hands of one back. We need a strong duo, preferably trio. Little...we'll see. He's had a year off of football and that worries me, you know the Mike Williams effect.

TitanTom0987
04-24-2009, 08:00 PM
We can't leave our running game in the hands of one back. We need a strong duo, preferably trio. Little...we'll see. He's had a year off of football and that worries me, you know the Mike Williams effect.

We could have draft a replacement for LenDale.

MillaKilla8
04-24-2009, 08:02 PM
Yeah I agree that would definitely be tough on CJ. Maybe the Cards would take the great Chris Henry..? :D


Also, maybe we could draft a back in the draft..

Aaron3322
04-24-2009, 08:12 PM
I have many mixed emotions right now lol. I don't want to see LenDiesel leave, but weve been begging for a top WR for years. And Lendale or CHen and a 2nd would be more than worth Boldin.

MillaKilla8
04-24-2009, 08:22 PM
Yeah.
Here is a great opportunity for us to go and snag a number one for a great deal, which is what we have dreamed of for so long. If all the Cards want is a RB & #2 then this is too good to pass up.

titansikou
04-24-2009, 08:27 PM
We could have draft a replacement for LenDale.

See above post :slap.

TitansFan23
04-24-2009, 08:27 PM
Which is exactly why the Titans will pass it up. :laugh

PBV
04-25-2009, 01:11 PM
Anquan Boldin-WR- Cardinals Apr. 25 - 12:53 pm et


The agent for Anquan Boldin, Drew Rosenhaus, said on ESPN Saturday that he expects his client to be traded this weekend.
"By the end of the day, Anquan will probably be with another team," said Rosenhaus, whose voice was Dick Vitale-esque hoarse after talking up his clients all morning. Rosenhaus confirmed that the Cardinals have not given him permission to seek a trade, but that doesn't make one any less likely.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_previousnews.aspx?sport=NFL&id=2078

LiamVengeance
04-25-2009, 01:49 PM
I don't want to see Lendale go... unless we pick up Shonn Greene as a replacement.

Im with ya buddy. Im prayin as well, i heard he may go to the Bengals in the 2nd though

CodeBlue11
04-25-2009, 02:10 PM
Im with ya buddy. Im prayin as well, i heard he may go to the Bengals in the 2nd though

I wouldn't mind getting Glenn Coffee (spelling?) from alabama.

DelawareTitans
04-25-2009, 02:30 PM
You know, I'd hate to see Lenale go too, but we have CJ and can find another RB somewhere to spell him every so often. But, a lot have people have mentioned that after this ytear he might be gone anyway.

If you have a chance get a WR of the caliber of Boldin, you have to do it. We could actually pass to set up th erun, letting CJ run wild.

A lineup of Boldin, Gage, Washington, and possibly a Harvin or other rookie would makwe this offense exciting to watch.

Lets see if they have what it takes to make a deal that can put this team over the top.

MillaKilla8
04-25-2009, 03:11 PM
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090425/SPORTS01/904250325/1027
"My gut feeling, again, is that he's going to remain a Cardinal," Fisher said.

LiamVengeance
04-25-2009, 04:08 PM
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090425/SPORTS01/904250325/1027
"My gut feeling, again, is that he's going to remain a Cardinal," Fisher said.

We'll find out within 10 hours max. i think, ive never actually followed along with a draft so dont have much of an Idea about the length of the first 2 rounds

MillaKilla8
04-25-2009, 04:59 PM
They should reduce the amount of time a team gets....this is WAAAYYY to long.

shadowboxin'
04-25-2009, 05:29 PM
This is reduced... from 15 minutes to 10 minutes.

MillaKilla8
04-25-2009, 05:48 PM
than reduce it more!

Jones31
04-25-2009, 06:32 PM
All picks for all rounds should be no more than 5 minutes to select.

titan4ever
04-25-2009, 07:28 PM
Forget the Boldin trade with a First Round WR

TTP77
04-26-2009, 12:07 AM
Fisher comments from tonight:


(on whether drafting a receiver ends the pursuit of Anquan Boldin)

Let me clarify things, there was a lot of speculation and a lot of reports yesterday evening and we never at any time made an offer to the Arizona Cardinals. We left several messages with them last night, but they never returned our calls last night. We didn’t get in touch with them until before the draft today and they said they weren’t interested in moving him.

TitansFan23
04-26-2009, 12:19 AM
Sounds like a lot of hyperbole was coming out of Arizona.

pookha
04-26-2009, 01:26 AM
the cardinals have his contract for the next two years.
they also probably knew what drew was going to be asking in terms of money.
they may have expected once the other teams heard the kind of money boldin wanted that they too would shy away.

really if he isnt traded due to other teams thinking his demands are too high..
well it helps the cardinals at the bargaining table.

nikki32
04-26-2009, 01:58 AM
I have this nfl thing on my cell phone. Anyway, it said on the scroll screen that Arizona is reducing the $$$ of AB and interested in our Rbs. It said plural running backs though that could have been a typo. I subscribe to sprint and there is this free nfl option thingy for your phone for updates. I clicked on draft tracker and that is when the scroll thing said what I am writing about. But I haven't heard that anywhere else.

Toronto
04-26-2009, 08:44 AM
Think we can TKO this thread for now....