Torry Holt

[TitansFan23]

Might as well get a thread started about him; keep an ongoing update until he signs.

Right now, it looks like the Hags have the first shot at him.


To wit, league sources told the Post-Dispatch on Wednesday evening that Holt will be paying a free-agent visit to the Jacksonville Jaguars on Thursday. Jacksonville is in dire need of receiving help.

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2009/03/former-st-louis-ram-torry-holt-to-visit-jacksonville/

[Pjames32]

Good thread

He better be on a plane to Nashville the second he leaves Jacksonville. And hopefully we will be his last stop.

[TitansFan23]

Good thread

He better be on a plane to Nashville the second he leaves Jacksonville. And hopefully we will be his last stop.

I hope he showers first.

Don't bring the stank of Jacksonville to Nashville Torry.

We'll be waiting at the airport with flea powder.

[MillaKilla8]

I hope he showers first.

Don't bring the stank of Jacksonville to Nashville Torry.

:rotflmao

[kytitansfan1]

I wonder if they left the tarps on so Holt could see how many empty seats he would be playing in front of if he signs with the Jags.

[Pjames32]

I wonder if they left the tarps on so Holt could see how many empty seats he would be playing in front of if he signs with the Jags.

:rotflmao :thumbsup

[ZachLV27]

I wonder if they left the tarps on so Holt could see how many empty seats he would be playing in front of if he signs with the Jags.

I'm pretty sure millions of dollars will make him not care about that. He's also been playing for a horrible team lately so he should be used to it.

[TitansFan23]

The Titans need to make an offer Holt can't refuse.

By that, I mean they should put the head of a racing horse in his bed.

My apologies to the equine faithful.

[pookha]

i am afraid the jags are so desparate for a qb they are going to throw a ton of signing bonus at him.

[NYTitan21]

I hope he showers first.

Don't bring the stank of Jacksonville to Nashville Torry.

We'll be waiting at the airport with flea powder.

QFT and Repped for truth LOL

[Yvette]

At this point I'm starting to think Torry Holt is a mythical figure.

[NcTitans_fan]

Holt is just shopping around to our rivals so that we offer him a bigger contract..

[titan122]

Holt is just shopping around to our rivals so that we offer him a bigger contract..

this is what i am thinkin, it only makes sense to go visit with our divisional foe too see if he can get a raise in figures.

maybe not just our foes but other teams as well and hope for a bidding war, yea right a bidding war w/ our titans:rotflmao

[JCBRAVE]

If Holt were to sign with Jacksonville, wouldn't that be like staying with the fabulous city of St. Louis? I don't get why he is visiting them. Their QB situation is awful. David Garrard is no better than Collins or Bulger, so visiting them is probably just to get our offer higher in dollars. I see the 49er's are also interested in Holt, but again that's a crap shoot of a team too. My guess is he sees what Tennessee is all about and never leaves once hes in town.

[BJShan]

More Holt news:

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/27/jaguars-titans-rivalry-affects-holts-free-agency/


If the Jaguars and Titans are both interested in Holt, that’s good news for him. The two teams hate each other (Titans coach Jeff Fisher once called Jacksonville’s stadium his team’s second home because of its run of success there), and both need a featured wide receiver, so Holt likely stands to make some good money off the situation.

It's not much but it's a something.

[MillaKilla8]

"Titans coach Jeff Fisher once called Jacksonville’s stadium his team’s second home because of its run of success there"


LOL

[Count Telecky]

I can't believe there has not been any mention of a visit lined up. Surely we would have him in to visit even if we do offer a low ball $$ amount.

[TTP77]

By: Terry McCormick, tmccormick@nashvillecitypaper.com

Tennessee Titans general manager Mike Reinfeldt confirmed Friday to The City Paper that he has made contact with the agent for free agent wide receiver Torry Holt.

Holt was released earlier this month by the St. Louis Rams, and made his first free agent visit Friday to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Reinfeldt has not yet scheduled a visit with Holt through his agent Kennard McGuire, but maintains an interest in getting a look-see at the 32-year-old veteran.

“We’ve talked to his agent a couple of times, and it’s possible we may have him in to visit,” Reinfeldt said. “We’ve had contact with his agent, but at this time nothing is really definitive, but we have some contact with his agent.”

Holt, a 10-year veteran, had 64 catches for the Rams last season and is 11th all-time in NFL receptions with 869 career receptions.

If and when the Titans bring Holt in for a visit, Reinfeldt said such a meeting could be a mutual fact finding endeavor on both ends.

“I think it’s probably a two-way street. With all he’s done and all he’s accomplished, I think he wants to go to a place where he fits personality-wise, scheme-wise, locker room-wise and all that. It’s a two-way fit and I think it’s important to both sides to have it fit,” Reinfeldt said.

While the Titans’ focus is on the draft now and evaluating college prospects, Reinfeldt said the Titans are not necessarily through in free agency. The team needs depth at receiver, cornerback, quarterback and linebacker.

“There are still two or three positions on the team that we are looking at adding some depth to,” Reinfeldt said. “There’s still some free agents out there that would be of interest to us and could help us.”

http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/news.php?viewStory=67127

[NcTitans_fan]

i did think we would land him but that makes me think otherwise

[BJShan]

“We’ve talked to his agent a couple of times, and it’s possible we may have him in to visit,” Reinfeldt said. “We’ve had contact with his agent, but at this time nothing is really definitive, but we have some contact with his agent.”

I think the real question is if Reinfelt has had contact with Holts agent.

[NcTitans_fan]

get who god?.....i didnt know he was a FA

[shadowboxin']

Not much new, but there is a new spin on this article:


A couple of supposed aces in the hole that might work in the Titans favor is that they have some veterans, who supposedly know Holt pretty well with their state of North Carolina connections. Apparently, both David Thornton and Alge Crumpler, who played at North Carolina, know Holt, who played at N.C. State. All three from the state.

Remember last year, it was Thornton who helped sell Crumpler on the benefits of coming to the Titans and playing for Fisher and with a team that was on the ascent.

Might the same selling point work on Holt? Only time will tell. First, the Titans have to schedule a visit. Then, after sizing up their interest in him, see if the interest is mutual on Holt’s part.

Jacksonville is only the 1st stop (http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/news.php?viewStory=67112)

[MillaKilla8]

^nice read...honestly i didnt even know any of them went to the same college lol^

[TitansFan23]

Fingers crossed.

http://www.titansradio.com/article.asp?id=1243116&SPID=29108

[Toronto]

LOL at the research of that piece...last I checked Holt didn't have 1000 yards this season.

That said, man I want this vet - really rounds out our WRs and fills a genuine need.

[Jones31]

The former Rams standout had produced at least 1,000 yards receiving for eight consecutive seasons with the franchise.
Didn't say anything about last season.

[TitansFan23]

That would be ugly... for us.

http://www.theheraldbulletin.com/sports/local_story_088235555.html?keyword=secondarystory

[shadowboxin']

The Colts could use any receiver, but that article contains nothing referring to any interest from either side of Indianapolis/Holt. I think he just decided to write it because he liked the cute little rhyme he made in the headline.

[TitansFan23]

Yeah, it's wishful thinking on his part, but I wouldn't be surprised if Holt makes a visit there.

That would be a nasty WR core.

[Count Telecky]

I was listening to 104.5 between 8-8:30 this morning. Sometimes I just don't get Paul Kuharsky. He was talking about why the Titans might not bring in Holt. He said one thought is that many feel that Holt would come in as the #1 and that would delay the development of the receivers currently on the roster and the Titans may not be interested in delaying development.

WTF?:lolhit

This is not NFL Europe or the Arena league!!! If you can bring someone in that's better than what you've got...you do it.
:banghead

[Aaron3322]

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcsouth/0-8-148/Report--Holt-to-visit-Titans.html


Holt has been to Jacksonville, and the Titans and Jaguars are believed to be the teams most interested in his services.

Things have moved slowly so far, and he's believed to be seeking more money than either team is willing to pay.

[Aaron3322]

I've been on the TOMB saying I really would rather us not go after Holt. Now especially since hes wanting more money (than we are willing to pay). It may just be me being biased because he was a former Ram but i just don't think he would be that much of an upgrade to put that much money into.

[ZachLV27]

Holt is scheduled to visit the Titans on Thursday.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090331/SPORTS01/90331018/-1/RSS05

That link just says later this week, but I've read several sites saying Thursday.

[shadowboxin']

Almost there...


Free agent Torry Holt intends to play for a playoff contender, according to ESPN's John Clayton.

This seems to make the Titans the favorites to sign him. Of course everyone wants to play for a contender, and this may be Holt's last NFL contract. The 33-year-old is probably going to lean towards the biggest payday.

[TitansFan23]

Hope he signs.

[Mike McFan]

Almost there...

Jags are out of the running then !:lol

[Count Telecky]

Hoefully we'll get some news one way or another on Friday.

[Conan Oh Brian]

I will label this a RUMOR as I have no intentions on defending myself for where the information came from.

If Holt passes his physical tomorrow then he will sign with the Titans and it should be announced very shortly afterwards.

*edit*

Holt must have liked something he saw in another city. Let's hope this is a short wait.

[shadowboxin']

50% of all rumors on the internet are true... 95% of the time.

I refuse to believe this one is false.

[Zephyr]

http://bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0259/2642/holt-1_feature.jpg

[felloffthewagon]

Bring on Torry.

[hooktool]

http://bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0259/2642/holt-1_feature.jpg

Wow! He's got a big head.:lol

John

[Zephyr]

Holt at Karaoke



The former St. Louis receiver, in the Music City to apply for a job running routes for the Titans, felt the love in the room Wednesday night at Cabana as players hung out at Cortland Finnegan’s Karaoke For a Cure fundraiser.

Holt watched from the bar, escort Alge Crumpler to his left, Chris Hope, David Thornton to his right, as Nashvillians walked up to Holt, offering their support in his decision to consider LP Field as his new NFL home.

Holt, a seven-time Pro Bowler, had to be touched as he watched Titans players and cheerleaders attempt to sing “We Are Family” (Sister Sledge, circa 1979). Nashville is offering a warm welcome to the free agent receiver, hoping he will join Chris Johnson, Justin Gage, newly signed Nate Washington and others on the Titans offense

http://data.tennessean.com/v2/bin/pluckTools/display/groupblog.php?blog=96f9f738-ab2a-406c-bf09-a7c50ccfaaed&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3a96f9f738-ab2a-406c-bf09-a7c50ccfaaedPost%3a52ebbe7f-e168-43e6-bdcf-89db8904ad1b&sid=sitelife.tennessean.com

[Conan Oh Brian]

Wow! He's got a big head.:lol

John

I know he has a Fathead

[Count Telecky]

I'm glad to see Holt was able to be hear for Finny's fundraiser. Hopefully he saw something special and this is where he'll want to be.

[titan122]

i hope even though he says he wants to take his time makin a decision that the fo wont let him leave w/o a deal done.

[TitanTom0987]

i hope even though he says he wants to take his time makin a decision that the fo wont let him leave w/o a deal done.

We all know that won't happen. The Titans like to let things play out and normally don't get these types of guys. Although this kind of reminds me of the Crumpler situation last year.

[Nintova]

We all know that won't happen. The Titans like to let things play out and normally don't get these types of guys. Although this kind of reminds me of the Crumpler situation last year.

This. Cross your fingers n toes.

[titan122]

i have had my fingers toes legs and eyes crossed.

[shadowboxin']

Holt has good visit; Fisher: "I don't think he is in a hurry" (http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090402/SPORTS01/90402111/-1/RSS05)

[felloffthewagon]

Fisherspeak for he wants more than they are willing to give.

[Toronto]

Fisherspeak for he wants more than they are willing to give.

Nah, disagree, but I will say this - the Bears may want Holt more than anyone now. If we did want to sign him, we just got competition.

[Titans and Turtles]

I guess my overall problem with the F.O.'s handling of things is that I don't feel they have any sense of urgency.

I agree, making silly, outrageous trades, signing ridiculous deals with free-agents, equals a bad long term plan. Trying to continually build on that model is doomed to failure.

But conversely, I continue to feel this team is good enough that we really are just one or two big names away. I would like to get a sense the front office believes we are as close to being championship material as I am, and go ahead and try to and be aggressive on a one or two time basis, just right now. Not change the whole philosiphy, not trade all our picks for the next 10 years, but just do something that looks like they're "GOING FOR IT".

Our meme when discussing this team's FO is often "anything to avoid salary cap hell." Which is good, our last real down period for a few yearscan be directly related to us winding up in salary cap hell. But I can all too easily see us, in 3 to 5 years, with a new meme - "Don't be so scared and play it so safe that you let your chances slip away without ever really taking your shot."

Don't go crazy, don't turn into the Cowboys or Redskins or Raiders. Just take one shot, right now, while our window is open. If it doesn't work, at least you'll have no regrets. The Preds had their shot a couple years ago, they looked like a legitimate threat, and they brought in Forsberg. They still lost in the first round, but I, and most pred fans, have no regrets, as they built the team the right way, slowly, and steadily, and then hit the button on the big-name just at the end to push them over the top.

If our window closes while we've sat on our heels and done nothing, I'll be no happier than I was when we ended up in cap hell. After all, when you're losing, no one cares if you did it "the right way" or "the wrong way". They just know you lost.

[Fairweather Fan]

Holt has good visit; Fisher: "I don't think he is in a hurry" (http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090402/SPORTS01/90402111/-1/RSS05)

Way to state the obvious Fish. The guy took a vacation before even thinking about finding a job. If I was Fisher I would be concerned about Torry Holt's desire to play the game. It is clear to me the guy is in no hurry to find a team.

[DelawareTitans]

Just get him signed already.

[Conan Oh Brian]

Just get him signed already.

The Titans are ready to pull the trigger with the money Holt wants in place. Holt is the one stalling.

[DelawareTitans]

The Titans are ready to pull the trigger with the money Holt wants in place. Holt is the one stalling.

Do the Titans have the best offer on the table? I have a feeling they will be dissed again.

[bucket]

Maybe he's worried aout coming here, Far too many times, FA wide receivers become Titans and are never heard from again. Kind of like a ship sailing into the Bermuda Triangle.:hide

Me, I hope we sign Torry sooner rather than later.

[Conan Oh Brian]

Do the Titans have the best offer on the table? I have a feeling they will be dissed again.

I have no idea what other teams are offering in terms of a contract. I was told that a number was presented by Holt's agent before he visited and the Titans were on board assuming that he passed his physical. I fully expected Holt to sign the day he visited. Now I feel like :doh.

[TitansFan23]

Pace is trying to lure Holt to Da Bears.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/04/orlando-pace-lobbies-for-former-teammate-torry-holt-to-join-chicago-bears.html

[felloffthewagon]

If they didn't sell Holt when he was here, I don't think he is coming here.

Coffee is for Closers, Reinfeldt.

[silvertitan]

i hope we get holt but will not be hurt if we dont

[titan122]

with our wr core i dont know that we will be OK if we dont add another with either experience or redzone threat. 12gage and washington will be good together but unless the hawk or williams steps up we may be worse off than last year. losing brandon jones which was not a major loss but he was getting better and then take jmac away which made a few plays for us last year doesnt make the core any better. i dont think that the addition of washington makes up for the loss of bj and jmac(not that the losses were great but it does hurt).

[titansrule00000]

I think we had our chance to get Holt, but who knows I would love to see him as a titan

[Titans and Turtles]

I've not quite given up on Holt yet. What I heard on the radio today (forget who said it, maybe it was John McClain?):

Holt is going to wait until after the draft, and see if any teams feel a little more desperate if they can't get what they want in a WR at the draft (and would therefore fork over a little more cash to ensure they sign Holt).

[pookha]

If they didn't sell Holt when he was here, I don't think he is coming here.

Coffee is for Closers, Reinfeldt.

is it possible that something showed up when he went to visit teams.
in a couple of cases it seemed almost a sure thing teams were hot for him and then things would just get quiet after he left.
it happened here, jacksonville and else where.
there is no bidding war evidently going on for him and he didnt seem pleased with any offer.

the waiting for the draft almost sounds like he is in hope some team wont get wr help and maybe get desparate for him.

i suspect he was wanting a nice bit if guaranteed money with this probably being the last contract but teams maybe were not willing to give out a lot guaranteed but wanted to place incentives ect.

[Red Birds]

I've not quite given up on Holt yet. What I heard on the radio today (forget who said it, maybe it was John McClain?):

Holt is going to wait until after the draft, and see if any teams feel a little more desperate if they can't get what they want in a WR at the draft (and would therefore fork over a little more cash to ensure they sign Holt).
I seriously dought Holt will wait until after the draft to sign. It could eliminate the Titans and Jags from needing his services by those teams drafting a WR. Doesn't mean that what you heard on the radio won't happen I just think it could eliminate his best two options, the exact opposite of what he thinks will happen by waiting until after the draft.
From the buzz I heard, after his visit to Tennessee he was very impressed by both the Titans and Jags but NEITHER were willing to offer him #1 receiver money. Both teams were wanting to give him insentive laden contracts so he was going to go back to St. Louis and think about his options.

[Titans and Turtles]

I seriously dought Holt will wait until after the draft to sign. It could eliminate the Titans and Jags from needing his services by those teams drafting a WR. Doesn't mean that what you heard on the radio won't happen I just think it could eliminate his best two options, the exact opposite of what he thinks will happen by waiting until after the draft.
From the buzz I heard, after his visit to Tennessee he was very impressed by both the Titans and Jags but NEITHER were willing to offer him #1 receiver money. Both teams were wanting to give him insentive laden contracts so he was going to go back to St. Louis and think about his options.

Wait, wait, wait, you mean to tell me the Titans didn't immediately offer big money to a free-agent? They possibly offered lower than what the FA was looking for?

NO WAI!!!

That's unpossible!

[Red Birds]

Wait, wait, wait, you mean to tell me the Titans didn't immediately offer big money to a free-agent? They possibly offered lower than what the FA was looking for?

NO WAI!!!

That's unpossible!
Both teams were not willing to offer him #1 money because the Titans and Jags still had concerns of the knee injuries that Holt has suffered over the last couple seasons.
Personally I just hope that the Bears don't become an option for him. I would love to have Holt and think if it is like contracts between the Titans and Jags we get him. However, if the Bears step in and put a similar contract together than he is as good as a Bear. With Orlando Pace and Lovie Smith connections I fear he won't be wearing two tone blue.

[StephenIsLEGEND]

I love sarcasm.
As for Holt, I think he will sign with us after the draft. He will realize that if he wants that ring here and now, once again, his best bet is to be with the Titans. I really don't think the Jags are contention-worthy yet, but we'll see this season.

My bet is the Titans only draft one receiver, sign Holt, and let him be the vet mentorship Hawkins and the new dude need.

[Titanico]

I am not sure how much Fisher is scared to pick a WR that could have a couple of seasons in the tank.

Or maybe is that those WR's know what the offensive scheme would be like and it simply doesn't appeal to their interests.

Just a couple of thoughts here.

[RohitTheNair]

This leaves us in a really tricky situation come draft day...If we go ahead and draft a WR in the first round, there is no chance Holt comes here...BUT...If we bank on Holt coming here as long as we dont draft a WR but he then decides to go elsewhere, that leaves us even more screwed than we ever have been....

I personally would take a 1st round receiver (Nicks, Heyward-Bey, Harvin, etc.) over Holt.....Though it would be fantastic to rent Holt for a couple of years.

[shadowboxin']

We shouldn't draft a receiver 1st round anyway, Holt or no Holt. Gage, Washington, Hawkins is a not pathetic enough WR corps to justify taking a 1st round receiver (the only exception I would make is probably Nicks as he looks like the most pro-ready receiver that would be there).

Best defensive player available in the 1st and then go receiver in 2 or 3 (where we still can snag guys like Britt, Robiskie, Thomas, etc).

[BJShan]

This leaves us in a really tricky situation come draft day...If we go ahead and draft a WR in the first round, there is no chance Holt comes here...BUT...If we bank on Holt coming here as long as we dont draft a WR but he then decides to go elsewhere, that leaves us even more screwed than we ever have been....

I personally would take a 1st round receiver (Nicks, Heyward-Bey, Harvin, etc.) over Holt.....Though it would be fantastic to rent Holt for a couple of years.

Even if we take a receiver first (which we won't) I'd much rather have Holt.

Holt, who can play on day one, or a 1st round pick who sees very limited to zero action his first year....

:whistling

[pookha]

someone on titans central said this could be tied not just into wanting number one guaranteed money but wanting a multi year guarantee that he will start due to being a stat search.
he has his ring now he may want the stats to ensure he is getting into the hall.

[felloffthewagon]

someone on titans central said this could be tied not just into wanting number one guaranteed money but wanting a multi year guarantee that he will start due to being a stat search.
he has his ring now he may want the stats to ensure he is getting into the hall.

This is what I think. He is interested in structuring a contract that ensures him a roster spot beyond 09.

[Toronto]

This is what I think. He is interested in structuring a contract that ensures him a roster spot beyond 09.

That doesn't really happen in the NFL. If he wants a guaranteed spot for 2010 he's best off having a reasonable cap number in 2010, otherwise he'd be cut by almost any team after this season anyways.

[chronbrownie012]

We're not going to see anything until after the draft if then

Maybe it'll ensure that we try to secure the future of the position instead of going for short term fixes

:jawdrop but i wouldn't hold my breathe on that

[TitansGiantsBears]

Even if we take a receiver first (which we won't) I'd much rather have Holt.

Holt, who can play on day one, or a 1st round pick who sees very limited to zero action his first year....

:whistling

I'm thinking along the same lines. The Titans have taken receivers in recent years and supposedly been high on them - Hawkins, Williams, Davis, and Filani, but Coach Fisher doesn't seem keen on inserting a rookie WR into the lineup.
Even if the Titans draft a WR high I could see him sitting behind Gage and Washington and possibly even Hawkins while he "learns".

[Rolltide14TOMB]

really i think the draft namely the first pick could help us receiving wise more on the field...but i guess Eric, uh David, ummm oh Torry Holt could be a "veteran" leader but i think we've been down this road b4....it would be nice to see to help fill this void in the offseason