Vince Young will play it cool

[Zephyr]

Titans quarterback Vince Young broke his silence with the media on Sunday night, saying he plans a quiet approach to the 2009 season — work hard and stay out of the spotlight.


“I am just going to keep my mouth closed, man. All I am doing this year is shutting up, just shutting up and working,” Young said. “I am going to smile and shut up and continue being Vince Young, a happy smiling guy. I am not going to get into the hoopla any more because of the fact I can’t win any more, I see.

“I am just going to shut my mouth and play my role and if they need me then I will be available as a weapon.”

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090420/SPORTS01/90419018

[Jones31]

Good now shut up!

[Mike McFan]

Good now shut up!

Short and to the point.:thumbsup

[Sect309Fan]

Good now shut up!

He's been quiet forever. Personally, I wish he would talk to the media more.

[TTP77]

I'm glad he decided to address the media finally. He doesn't have to speak all the time. It's past time he mended fences with the local media and this is a really good start. I thought he said the right things.

[BJShan]

Link was broken for me, found it here though:

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090420/SPORTS01/90419018

[Mike McFan]

He's been quiet forever. Personally, I wish he would talk to the media more.

But when he does he tends to sound a little Pac-Manesque for my liking.:huh

[chronbrownie012]

I think it's a good idea....I like that he's dedicated himself to the offseason training in Nashville....I want to see the guy make progress....he has too much talent to bust out like it appears he will

[BJShan]

Then he was injured and replaced by Collins, who rallied the Titans to victory,
kicking off a 10-0 start.

I'm not an expert but don't you have to be losing before you can rally?

[Sect309Fan]

I'm not an expert but don't you have to be losing before you can rally?

Good point. What Collins did was stop the Jags rally.

[Count Telecky]

“I definitely want to be in Nashville and it is a team I am committed to. But it is always a business and you never know what goes on. But I will always have myself prepared,’’ Young said. “I just don’t want them to say anything about Vince Young that he is not taking care of his responsibilities. I will always take of my responsibilities if I am not playing or if I am playing. I don’t want no negative stuff going out to other teams saying Vince Young is not playing and because he’s being a bad guy. That is not me.

Is VY seeing the writing on the wall?

[Rolltide14TOMB]

I think it's a good idea....I like that he's dedicated himself to the offseason training in Nashville....I want to see the guy make progress....he has too much talent to bust out like it appears he will


I think there is a fine line between saying he has talent and not having talent...i mean does he "have talent" just because he can run? what if he couldnt run a lick would you still say he has talent? would u say he has talent as a passer? actually in the game he hardly ever runs anymore so its almost like he cant....Im not saying he doesnt have the talent its just a thought! i would like to hear other thoughts :p

[wari0]

I think by talent everyone really means his athletic ability. Not his skillset or decision making.

[Jones31]

What is this talent people speak of?

[Rolltide14TOMB]

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss221/vtitany10/yawn.gif

[Volunteers10]

Is VY seeing the writing on the wall?

in other words, "I want to raise my trade value" :D

[Yvette]

I thought he said the right things.
Me too. If he doesn't talk it's considered pouting, and enough time has passed that he no longer needed to defend himself.

[Orca]

Orca thinks we should take what VY said at face value and look forward to the new season. We can validate one viewpoint or the other then.

[felloffthewagon]

Lets see what this season brings, hopefully things are looking up for all of our players.

I think he sees it for what it is, and is doing what he can to be part of it.

[Bobcat]

I can only hope this is the start of a huge turn-around for him. I want him to succeed as bad as anyone, even though he sure makes it tough at times to root for him to actually succeed.

[tyrant28]

good for vince!! it is wise of him to do this, though he should have thought about that a while back! oh well, you live and learn, and to me, this is a sign of maturity!

[DelawareTitans]

Hope this is the first sign of maturity and being able to accept his role with the team. If he truly means it, there is a lot he can still learn and will be the better for it.

[Rolltide14TOMB]

at least he is trying....but my concern always will be how he maintains his attitude...a lot of ppl can change but there is always the possibility of regression...do we trust that in the future? im still undecided...the next year will help me decide

[Yvette]

I've said it before... nature vs nurture. If it's his inherent nature to man up, he'll be fine. If his nurturing included that too, he may very well kick ass.

[Orca]

Which came first? The nature or the nurture?

[Yvette]

Nature and it always wins. It's encoded in our DNA. I've been studying it for a while now and I suspect you already knew the answer, Flipper :D

[Orca]

Nature and it always wins. It's encoded in our DNA. I've been studying it for a while now and I suspect you already knew the answer, Flipper :D

This must be why Mrs O frequently reminds poor Orca that the apple doesnt fall far from the tree...:sad

[nikki32]

Orca thinks we should take what VY said at face value and look forward to the new season. We can validate one viewpoint or the other then.

What he said. Damn ya'll. LOL

[Jones31]

He's been quiet forever. Personally, I wish he would talk to the media more.

Talk is cheap, I'm not interested in what a below average backup QB none the less has to say.

[Sect309Fan]

Talk is cheap, I'm not interested in what a below average backup QB none the less has to say.

Then don't listen. Personally, when MY TEAM has invested as much money in a Rookie of the Year winner who has a career winning record and a playoff start and who has started less than 2 full seasons, I want to listen. Vince Young's career with the Titans is certainly not over. It's still too early to give up on him.

[Jones31]

Joe Flacco was a ROY winner also over a better QB in Matt Ryan. That argument is weak. What winning record? W/L aren't player stats.

[Sect309Fan]

Joe Flacco was a ROY winner also over a better QB in Matt Ryan. That argument is weak. What winning record? W/L aren't player stats.

Matt Ryan won the real NFL Rookie of the Year award http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/history/awards/aporoy

Flacco won the "Diet Pepsi ROY" award. That is pretty meaningless.

[Yvette]

What do Flacco and Ryan have to do with anything? What do any of them have to do with each other? They have things in common but they each have their own body of work. We did invest a lot in him and I want to get to know him... but only the best parts. Ignorance really is bliss. This is a good start IMO.

[Rolltide14TOMB]

ROY is WORTHLESS....WHO CARES......We went 10-6 the IN SPITE OF VINCE (HE THREW NINE TOUCHDOWNS) he had a good end of year in 06 because (he ran, no one knew what or how to defend him, and HE RAN)

It was remarkable the team was able to squeak in the playoffs that year thanks to in my opinion the best defense we have ever had...that fact that vince constantly but them in bad situations but the defense constantly held the other team off (whether it was 3 or a turnover) i mean it was so bad that we had to play VANILLA TIMES 10 just to keep him from turning it over to put our D in good spots...

I know this is pointless since we lost to Baltimore anyway but in my opinion (especially with a CJ injury) we would have been shut out that game...they would key 100% on CJ and thats it...hell i think with Vince we lose to Jax TWICE...Indy TWICE...defintely Chicago and Pittsburgh...and GB....

i mean Kerry isnt THAT great he is just average but the fact that we have A) a great O-line B) good running backs C) ONE good TE D) great Defense....yet an OLD, Average man who couldnt probably be successful with any other team in the league MAKES THE PRO BOWL (granted it was backdoor) (yes VY made it also i know but different cirmcustances)...and VINCE couldnt even perfrom well in these prestine conditions...

[Jones31]

Matt Ryan won the real NFL Rookie of the Year award http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/history/awards/aporoy

Flacco won the "Diet Pepsi ROY" award. That is pretty meaningless.

So since Vince won the same award are you acknowledging that award is meaningless? Since Flacco will be acknowledged as as ROY winner also now.

[Rolltide14TOMB]

On the other hand like yvette says...people can grow and change and i REALLY hope this happens...i just dont know if Texas VY (even if he came back) would cut it in the pros... there is an enigma factor a little and the RAY of hope that he can be what we intially thought...however there is no doubt that right now he sucks. he has been a terrible passer from day 1...Some think he can be good some dont....i dont really know what i believe right now but im just saying IMO the odds are against (but hell what are odds)

[Sect309Fan]

So since Vince won the same award are you acknowledging that award is meaningless? Since Flacco will be acknowledged as as ROY winner also now.

Vince won the AP Rookie of the Year Award, just like Ryan.

I guess you didn't click on my link. :slap

[Jones31]

No, I am aware of the AP award. I'm also aware players who win the award can disappear just as fast in this league.

[Sect309Fan]

No, I am aware of the AP award. I'm also aware players who win the award can disappear just as fast in this league.

You still didn't click on my link, have you?

2008 Matt Ryan Atlanta Falcons Quarterback
2007 Adrian Peterson Minnesota Vikings Running Back
2006 Vince Young Tennessee Titans Quarterback
2005 Cadillac Williams Tampa Bay Buccaneers Running Back
2004 Ben Roethlisberger Pittsburgh Steelers Quarterback
2003 Anquan Boldin Arizona Cardinals Wide Receiver
2002 Clinton Portis Denver Broncos Running Back
2001 Anthony Thomas Chicago Bears Running Back
2000 Mike Anderson Denver Broncos Running Back
1999 Edgerrin James Indianapolis Colts Running Back
1998 Randy Moss Minnesota Vikings Wide Receiver
1997 Warrick Dunn Tampa Bay Buccaneers Running Back
1996 Eddie George Houston Oilers Running Back
1995 Curtis Martin New England Patriots Running Back
1994 Marshall Faulk Indianapolis Colts Running Back
1993 Jerome Bettis Los Angeles Rams Running Back
1992 Carl Pickens Cincinnati Bengals Wide Receiver
1991 Leonard Russell New England Patriots Running Back
1990 Emmitt Smith Dallas Cowboys Running Back
1989 Barry Sanders Detroit Lions Running Back

-------------------------------------------------

That's a pretty good list of players. Not everyone became a big star, but a large majority of them did.

[Jones31]

I don't have to click the link, I know who past winners are, I'm pretty sure none of them who are still playing in the league today had such a nose dive in their career like Vince did.
It's not a precursor to success in the league. Considering Vince was given the award with some pretty mediocre QB numbers. The other past award winners aren't/weren't mediocre players.

[Yvette]

i just dont know if Texas VY (even if he came back) would cut it in the pros...
If he can adapt he can succeed here. That falls under nature. Otherwise he'll need a team that adapts to him (nurture).

[Rolltide14TOMB]

Otherwise he'll need a team that adapts to him (nurture).

i would say we have nurtured him. i mean he threw a tantrum, stormed off the field, and threw his helmet. He then said it was because the fans booed him. He then became suicidal. Most fans (philly) for example would throw him under the bus say he is a nut job and ship him out (he would have probably been traded for a pick). But i think our fans at least have nurtured him pretty well. Sure he gets some criticism (which he deserves) but i would say we have made the effort to nurture him for sure. maybe thats the problem. maybe we nurture him 2 much...he can just sit on the bench fall into obscurity and collect his millions..poor baby...maybe we need to ADAPT to the circumstances and realize the approach we took/ are taking is not working..i dont know what that is necessarily.
I think the BEST way for him to improve is just get tougher then the rest will fall into place

[Orca]

Orca really hopes there will be no need to start a subforum on this subject. Let's not wrangle and wait instead for what might be the most important year of his Titans career...

[Rolltide14TOMB]

i want to use an example that i may get flamed for but here goes...
i have never seen a QB get more heat on him than John parker Wilson here at alabama...i mean you wanna talk about getting booed...he was/honestly still is hated here. "He is the worst QB we have ever had" "He cant do throw here, he is 2 short, put the backup in, ANYONE is better than this joke" It is way worse than any criticism VY has ever gotten or will get...it was ALL YEAR for 3 straight years he had THREE yes THREE different coordinators in THREE years....yes i know the NFL more pressure than college or what-not but not here at Alabama. Playing at this school is about as pressure as it gets...but you know what? this guy got tough...he was DETERMINED to step up to the plate and get the job done...he is probably 21,22, or 23 years old and he led his team to a 12-0 regular season, but when he lost in the SEC title game and Sugar Bowl it was "Well we cant win anything big with JP"....just a comparison and in all honesty i think its a good comparison....others will probably disagree

[Rolltide14TOMB]

Orca really hopes there will be no need to start a subforum on this subject. Let's not wrangle and wait instead for what might be the most important year of his Titans career...


orca is right again... after all we all are pulling for young :toast

[Nintova]

Did he wear Wranglers at the Brodeo ?

[shadowboxin']

i want to use an example that i may get flamed for but here goes...
i have never seen a QB get more heat on him than John parker Wilson here at alabama...i mean you wanna talk about getting booed...he was/honestly still is hated here. "He is the worst QB we have ever had"

I present to you....

Jarrett Lee.

[Rolltide14TOMB]

I present to you....
Jarrett Lee.


he has about 2 more years to catch JP...i present to YOU..Jordan Jefferson...no more JL

[shadowboxin']

Yeah probably won't see Lee anymore... but damnit if you didn't cringe EVERY time he threw the ball.

Setting the D-1 record for INT's returned for TD's in a season while remaining the starter as long as he did is a feat in itself.

[Rolltide14TOMB]

Setting the D-1 record for INT's returned for TD's in a season while remaining the starter as long as he did is a feat in itself

one of those from Mr. Rashad Johnson

[titansikou]

Oh Fun! A 'healthy' debate about Vince Young! :woot

[Yvette]

i would say we have nurtured him.
Nurturing can be good, bad, not enough, too much.

I think the Titans made an honest effort at adapting when they got rid of Chow, hired Dinger. The results of that are yet to be seen, at least by us.

[TitansFan370]

While I hope Vince can someday live up to his rookie season, my concern is that after suffering apparently his first football injury in the Tampa Bay game his second season, Vince lost his courage and athletic ability to run as he did previously. He just began last preseason being too cautious as if he was expecting to get hurt if he ran. That coupled with his still not admitted lost of control after getting "rightfully" booed after his second interception in the Jaguars game seems to limit his ability to come back to the full potential we all thought he had. His media interviews demonstrate to me an attitude problem and lack of maturity. I don't need Vince to tell me he is mature--I want to see it in his actions especially on the sidelines during home football games.

I want Vince to succeed because he is all we have other than Kerry Collins. I really don't know or expect much from Ramsey.

[Rolltide14TOMB]

he was expecting to get hurt if he ran

yea or he was trying to be that "pocket passer" that everyone said he couldnt be...he should model himself after Big Ben, Cutler, and McNabb...they use their mobility to buy extra time to throw downfield....insert Nate Washington

[Titanico]

At this point..I do not believe nothing that comes from Young's head or mouth. Yes! even when he says he decided to shut up.

Look Vince...your chances are the ones close to shut up.

[don28]

i would say we have nurtured him. i mean he threw a tantrum, stormed off the field, and threw his helmet. He then said it was because the fans booed him. He then became suicidal. Most fans (philly) for example would throw him under the bus say he is a nut job and ship him out (he would have probably been traded for a pick). But i think our fans at least have nurtured him pretty well. Sure he gets some criticism (which he deserves) but i would say we have made the effort to nurture him for sure. maybe thats the problem. maybe we nurture him 2 much...he can just sit on the bench fall into obscurity and collect his millions..poor baby...maybe we need to ADAPT to the circumstances and realize the approach we took/ are taking is not working..i dont know what that is necessarily.
I think the BEST way for him to improve is just get tougher then the rest will fall into place

Absolutely! He was coddled too much as an child and college student, and now it is make-or-break time for his NFL career. As Dick Vermeil once said about Larry Johnson, "It's time to take off the diapers and become a man."

[RohitTheNair]

Wow...Jones31...Your posts about Vince makes you seem like such a fool...Its extremely annoying to say the least....Boooo..

Vince Young is going to be a fine player for the Tennessee Titans in the future, and I 100% want him to excel here...Thats all im going to bother to say (like ive said before, not even a point in arguing vs. VY haters anymore, nothing will make them change their blind hatred)

[Jones31]

Wow...Jones31...Your posts about Vince makes you seem like such a fool...Its extremely annoying to say the least....Boooo..

Vince Young is going to be a fine player for the Tennessee Titans in the future, and I 100% want him to excel here...Thats all im going to bother to say (like ive said before, not even a point in arguing vs. VY haters anymore, nothing will make them change their blind hatred)

Yeah I'm really worried about someone half my age telling me what they think.

[Rolltide14TOMB]

I don't have to click the link, I know who past winners are, I'm pretty sure none of them who are still playing in the league today had such a nose dive in their career like Vince did.
It's not a precursor to success in the league. Considering Vince was given the award with some pretty mediocre QB numbers. The other past award winners aren't/weren't mediocre players

vince won that award partly because his Texas "aura" was still around...what was his major competition for that anyways that year? Demeco Ryans? a defensive player for a losing team? i bet his stats werent as good as other qbs more deserving...maybe Big Ben but hey he won the Bowl

[Jones31]

MJD in JAX
Addai in IND

[Rolltide14TOMB]

Wow...Jones31...Your posts about Vince makes you seem like such a fool...Its extremely annoying to say the least....Boooo..

Vince Young is going to be a fine player for the Tennessee Titans in the future, and I 100% want him to excel here...Thats all im going to bother to say (like ive said before, not even a point in arguing vs. VY haters anymore, nothing will make them change their blind hatred)


so far Jones is winning...Vince sucks right now bottom line...i dont think you realize what you are saying by "Vince haters" nobody HATES vince they simply dont think he is a good QB...that doesnt mean we dont WANT him to be

[Rolltide14TOMB]

MJD in JAX

ok well i forgot about him

[Jones31]

See I don't hate VY at all, I want him to prove he's better than what he's shown. Playing the game out of your hip pocket doesn't work forever.

[Toronto]

You still didn't click on my link, have you?

2008 Matt Ryan Atlanta Falcons Quarterback
2007 Adrian Peterson Minnesota Vikings Running Back
2006 Vince Young Tennessee Titans Quarterback
2005 Cadillac Williams Tampa Bay Buccaneers Running Back
2004 Ben Roethlisberger Pittsburgh Steelers Quarterback
2003 Anquan Boldin Arizona Cardinals Wide Receiver
2002 Clinton Portis Denver Broncos Running Back
2001 Anthony Thomas Chicago Bears Running Back
2000 Mike Anderson Denver Broncos Running Back
1999 Edgerrin James Indianapolis Colts Running Back
1998 Randy Moss Minnesota Vikings Wide Receiver
1997 Warrick Dunn Tampa Bay Buccaneers Running Back
1996 Eddie George Houston Oilers Running Back
1995 Curtis Martin New England Patriots Running Back
1994 Marshall Faulk Indianapolis Colts Running Back
1993 Jerome Bettis Los Angeles Rams Running Back
1992 Carl Pickens Cincinnati Bengals Wide Receiver
1991 Leonard Russell New England Patriots Running Back
1990 Emmitt Smith Dallas Cowboys Running Back
1989 Barry Sanders Detroit Lions Running Back

-------------------------------------------------

That's a pretty good list of players. Not everyone became a big star, but a large majority of them did.

Name one player on that list that quit on their team ON THE FIELD. I think of players like Bettis, Faulk, Martin and Big Ben, and I think of guys that their teammates would take a bullet for.

He can win me back - can he win back old school guys like David Stewart?

[titansikou]

He can win me back - can he win back old school guys like David Stewart?

The only way he's going to win anything is by winning. KC is in his way right now though. Titans might want to watch any secret trips to Haiti.

[Rolltide14TOMB]

can he win back old school guys like David Stewart

i have a friend from moulton who hunts with stewart and he said he has loathed vy from day 1...and dave is a quiet guy

[Zephyr]

Ahh, the first hater blast at TT, now it feels more like home

[Jones31]

I aim to please!

[Yvette]

Wow...Jones31...Your posts about Vince makes you seem like such a fool...Its extremely annoying to say the least....Boooo..
Wow someone's looking for a fight. Take it somewhere else - maybe the parking lot aka PM's - because it's extremely annoying to say the least.

[Rolltide14TOMB]

Wow...Jones31...Your posts about Vince makes you seem like such a fool...Its extremely annoying to say the least....Boooo..


Wow someone's looking for a fight. Take it somewhere else - maybe the parking lot aka PM's - because it's extremely annoying to say the least.

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss221/vtitany10/SmileyCentralEmoticon223.gif

[pookha]

If he can adapt he can succeed here. That falls under nature. Otherwise he'll need a team that adapts to him (nurture).

the problem is if a team adapted to him how long would it take for other teams to counter that..
not very long in the nfl.
it is why qb's like mcnabb and mcnair had to adapt.
if you dont you sink.

and it isnt just with the qb position.
one problem with a lot of wr's coming out is in some systems they only learn how to play on one side of the field.. pretty much the same thing over and over.

a really good nfl wr has to have the ability to move around to take advantage of what the defense is showing.

[315]

Well.. I think this is at least a step in the right direction. I know that he has to actually go out and prove himself, but getting straight with the media is a good 1st step.

[silvertitan]

Wow someone's looking for a fight. Take it somewhere else - maybe the parking lot aka PM's - because it's extremely annoying to say the least.


they make a forum just for you its called gotitans they like to insult people based on there opinions here we do not