NCAA to give report on USC Thursday.

[dakid]

OK, The report is suppose to come out Thursday and USC has already setup for a news confrence to address the report. So it's might finally happen.

What is your feelings or hopes that comes from the reports that happens to the USC program.

I hope they drop the hammer on them, death penalty would make me happy but never will happen. I say they lose scholarships and get banded from post season bowls and tournaments.

[ZachLV27]

I see no point in hurting the kids that are there following the rules. The rule violations are in the past so no future bowl games should be part of the penalty. I know I'll be in the minority here seeing as there is a lot of hatred for USC here.

I think they should lose scholarships for both football and basketball and some other sanctions should be imposed.

[Comar]

I'll feel bad for the kids that are there now, but I hope Lane gets everything he deserves. :thumbsup

That being said, I still miss the guy. I think I might have had a "man-crush".

[Titansfan777]

Just saw on ESPN:

Forfeiture of wins from 2004 season

Scholarship reduction

AND

2 YEAR POST SEASON BAN!!!!!!!!!

I for one never thought this day would come. They have finally got what has been coming to them.

[TitansFan23]

Hahahaha!

Suck it Lame!

[TitansGiantsBears]

I see no point in hurting the kids that are there following the rules. The rule violations are in the past so no future bowl games should be part of the penalty. I know I'll be in the minority here seeing as there is a lot of hatred for USC here.

I think they should lose scholarships for both football and basketball and some other sanctions should be imposed.

There may be some truth to the theory that many would love to see a harsh penalty because they hate USC so much, I don't believe that's the full story. I think people are more worried the NCAA will show favortism to USC vs. penalties handed out in the past for the same level of violations. Yes, it sucks to be the kids currently attending USC to deal with the university's past sins, but posseason bans, loss of television appearances, and reduction of scholarships are the only effective punishments at the NCAA's disposal and would be in line with past cases of similar violations.

[ZachLV27]

As long as USC doesn't lose television appearances I don't think it will really hurt them. The national tv exposure is what the kids are worried about. Keeping their tv appearances and losing bowl games seems a lot fairer for the kids that are there since this directly effects their future.

[TTP77]

Someone on twitter asked if there was an open job Lane Kiffin could bolt to....:lol

[Jones31]

If that's all they are getting they got off real light.

[Sect309Fan]

If that's all they are getting they got off real light.

Out of curiosity, how do these punishments compare to what Alabama has received in the last decade?

[Jones31]

Worse

[TitansGiantsBears]

As long as USC doesn't lose television appearances I don't think it will really hurt them. The national tv exposure is what the kids are worried about. Keeping their tv appearances and losing bowl games seems a lot fairer for the kids that are there since this directly effects their future.

On the subject of the players....

I believe kids who join a program that falls under sanctions that didn't occur when they were there should be able to leave the university without penalty. This could be just as harsh (if not worse) punishment for the school than losing incoming freshmen who may or may not work out anyway. Let's say you're one of these kids Kiffin took with him from Tennessee. Those guys should be able to enroll elsewhere, or even a kid who played last year for Carroll but had no part in the improprieties.

[dakid]

Lane and Ed move back to USC and guess what, they were part of the whole issue back during their first stops at USC. It's usually a new coach taking over a trouble team that gets stuck with the punishments not of he fault, but this time the new coach was part of the problem...LOL!!

[dakid]

Out of curiosity, how do these punishments compare to what Alabama has received in the last decade?

Bama really took a step back when it lost it's scholarships and took years to get back to it's winning ways.

[Sect309Fan]

Bama really took a step back when it lost it's scholarships and took years to get back to it's winning ways.

USC might be in the same boat, especially if the Pac-10 expands as predicted. USC will no longer be top dog in the conference.

[TTP77]

The report is 67 pages long wow

Statement from Reggie Bush

"I have a great love for the University of Southern California and I very much regret the turn that this matter has taken, not only for USC, but for the fans and players. I am disappointed by today's decision and disagree with the NCAA's findings. If the University decides to appeal, I will continue to cooperate with the NCAA and USC, as I did during the investigation. In the meantime, I will continue to focus on making a positive impact for the University and for the community where I live."

[TTP77]

Wow these sanctions are crazy....

JeromeSolomon

30 scholarship losses for USC - 10 per year for three years.

WindyCityScribe

"From December 2004 through March 2009, the institution exhibited a lack of control over its department of athletics..."

[TTP77]

Ruh roh....

WindyCityScribe

USC running backs coach Todd McNair is nailed for his knowledge. The NCAA also says McNair tried to deceive them about that knowledge.

****

BFeldmanESPN

#USC must vacate the 2004 BCS title game, all of 2005 season and will be reduced to 75 scholarships over a three-year span

[Sect309Fan]

Too bad they can't punish Tim Floyd and Pete Carroll for their role in all of this. It sucks that the players and coaches involved with all of this get to keep doing what they are doing while the place they left suffers.

I didn't realize that the women's tennis team had a big problem as well, using the university phones for free long distance calls.

[TTP77]

Here is the list of sanctions...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0611-usc-sanctions-list-20100611,0,2933056.story


EDIT: Link to the full report

http://ncaa.pr-optout.com/ViewAttachment.aspx?EID=IHepzZCQPdH1AR50%2boeR8d6e %2fhIfTVcpMlzU0JhqOeU%3d

[Sect309Fan]

From the official report, I really support these statements:

To satisfy the requirements of NCAA membership, an institution also must actively and fully investigate and monitor its athletics program and engage in thorough and complete follow-through when information surfaces. Universities may not hide their heads in the sand and purport to treat all programs and student-athletes similarly when it comes to the level of scrutiny required.

The more potential there is for big payoffs to student-athletes once they turn professional, then the more potential for illicit agent and third party involvement in the provision of significant cash and other benefits. In turn, heightened scrutiny is required. NCAA members, including USC, invest substantial resources to compete in athletics competition at the highest levels, particularly in football and men's basketball.

They must commit comparable resources to detect violations and monitor conduct with a realistic understanding and appraisal of what that effort entails, and what it will cost. In this regard, and particularly during the time of the football violations, the institution fell far short. In fact, the compliance director at the time ("former compliance director") reported that there were only two compliance staff members at the institution for most of his tenure and it was "just myself for a couple of months."

[TTP77]

USC is going to appeal and blame it on the agent.

[Jones31]

Appeal= worthless.

[Sect309Fan]

USC is going to appeal and blame it on the agent.

Good luck with that.

Monitoring student-athlete 1's employment at sports marketing firm.
Student-athlete 1 went to work as an intern for sports marketer A's sports agency in late April 2005. In 2005, such internships were established exclusively for USC student-athletes. As previously set forth in Finding B-2, by seeking out and employing USC student-athletes exclusively in 2005, the sports marketing agency became a representative of the institution's athletics interests pursuant to NCAA Constitution 6.4.2-(d) and Bylaw 13.02.13-(d). As set forth in detail in Finding B-2, after hiring student-athlete 1, sports marketer A provided numerous impermissible benefits to him, as well as to members of his family and friends. As previously documented, student-athlete 1 subsequently signed a sports marketing contract with sports marketer A's agency.

Due to the fact that the sports marketing agency contacted the institution about interns, and subsequently hired student-athlete 1--an elite student-athlete with a bright professional future--for employment, the institution assumed a heightened responsibility to monitor the situation. Yet it failed to take a "proactive" stance or investigate concerns and questions that arose regarding the relationship. For example, there was no written description of the duties student-athlete 1 was to perform, at no time did anyone from the institution conduct "spot checks" to ensure that student-athlete 1 was showing up at work and performing appropriate duties, and there was no evidence that the institution performed any other monitoring of this employment relationship.

Not only did the institution assume a heightened responsibility to monitor sports marketer A when the institution knowingly permitted student-athlete 1 to be employed by his sports marketing agency, it failed to follow-up on later information that suggested something in the relationship among sports marketer A, student-athlete 1 and the young man's parents might involve NCAA rules issues. A full investigation of the information might have prevented and/or detected violations of NCAA legislation by sports marketer A.

[TTP77]

I was just posting what they are going to do lol. i'm not defending USC by any means. It is clear to me they had very little oversight probably because they knew what was going on and didn't care.

BTW, it looks like Reggie's big problem was his fancy ride. Most of the allegations on other stuff talk about him and/or stepfather.

[TTP77]

Did you peeps see them nail Pete Carroll but not name him directly?

LMAO!!!

[TTP77]

I pretty much agree with this article. It's kinda obvious Reggie ain't the brightest bulb in the box but what the hell? If he had just paid those dudes early on this woulda never come to light.

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/after-breaking-rules-bush-still-couldve-saved-sc-28507

[TTP77]

Pete Carrolll response via You Tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT7RvG_FpBY&feature=youtu.be

[Comar]

Has Laney Boy commented yet?

[TTP77]

Has Laney Boy commented yet?

He said he wasn't stupid and didn't know what was going on even though he was there.

no really....he said that. :lol

[TTP77]

Mike Garrett will be gone soon

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/delusional-usc-ad-gone-at-end-of-the-summer-28510

[Titansfan777]

redshirts soph's, jr's, and sr's...have been cleared to leave if they want to without penalty

A few of their players, Michigan lost out to just barely apparently...wonder if theyll consider coming basck to the good side.

[TitansFan23]

If Lane loses his players I'll LMFAO for days.

[Comar]

But for Lane Kiffin, the boyish coach with the golden interview skills, the man who believes he wields a whistle on campus fields like Picasso moved a paintbrush on canvas, the failure to examine all the angles in his move to USC must be crushing right now. If everything Midas touched turned to gold, Lane Kiffin has to be looking at his head-coaching hands, the same hands that left behind a steaming wreck in both Oakland and Tennessee, and wondering to himself: Why does everything I touch turn to crap?



http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/06/10/lane-kiffin-left-holding-uscs-bag/

[TTP77]

And the bailing begins....guys are starting to transfer from USC. Poor Lame Kiffin

[TTP77]

This kinda sucks....:(


BFeldmanESPN

Spoke to an SEC coach (re:USC): An SEC rule prevents teams from taking transfers w only 1 yr of eligblty remaining unless they've graduated.