Miami U Violations

[ZachLV27]

I think we are truly going to see the "death penalty" enacted again. If half of these allegations are true they are in for some insane penalties.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/16/report-coaches-millions-of-dollars-part-of-miami-allegations/


Among the allegations Shapiro makes involving former members of the coaching staff includes:

Hurtt, Hill, Stoutland and Pannunzio delivered football recruits to Shapiro’s multi-million dollar home, allowing the booster to make recruiting pitches to the prospective players.
Shapiro stated that he took high school recruits on his yacht as well as to strip clubs at the behest of the coaches, paying for services rendered at the latter establishment.
Coaches took part in strip club visits with Shapiro and Hurricane football players.

Among the things Shapiro claimed he did because he could included:

Putting up bounties of $5,000 for any Hurricane who could knock players like former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow out of games.
39 Hurricane football players were on the receiving end of prostitutes paid for by Shapiro. Shapiro initially set the players up in hotel rooms before moving the “encounters” to his yacht.
Provided plane tickets, jewelry, electronics and clothing to myriad players.
Allow players to take his $1.6 million yacht out on fishing trips and other excursions. The boat was fully stocked with food and alcohol for the players. Shapiro claimed it cost $2,000 to fill the boat up with fuel for the trips.
Paid for a stripper to have an abortion after she claimed an unnamed player had gotten her pregnant during an encounter.



These are just some of the violations for guys that have become NFL players.


Bears return man Devin Hester allegedly got rims for his SUV, $3,000 for an engagement ring, various cash bonuses for long kick returns and NBA playoff tickets.

Broncos linebacker D.J. Williams allegedly got cash gifts, a $250 payout for a sack and a trip to Miami for his mom.

Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma allegedly got cash, drinks and meals, plus $2,250 in bounties for various hits on Florida State quarterback Chris Rix, including one hit that drew a personal foul penalty.

Patriots defensive tackle Vince Wilfork allegedly got a $50,000 lump sum payment during his junior season and was also allegedly given cash bonuses for things like sacks and fumble recoveries.

[Zephyr]

Insane.

And they haven't been a contender in 8 years.

I can't imagine the perks from universities that are actually swaying the top talent their direction nowadays.

[Sect309Fan]

Wow, I didn't realize how bad this was.

One booster can have a huge effect on a program. And it certainly looks like the university did nothing to stop him.

[Johnnyb]

Wow, I didn't realize how bad this was.

One booster can have a huge effect on a program. And it certainly looks like the university did nothing to stop him.

Sounds more like they encouraged it. If that is the case, the death penalty could be very well on its way back.

[Titansfan777]

This is looking like it might be worse than SMU in terms of violations. Over 100 players are implicated...thats like an entire 85 man roster and scout team. And it has been going on for 10+ years...dayum...

[Johnnyb]

Amazing how none of this had ever even come out at all really until now. The only way any of this came to light was that the guy who did it fessed up because he is already in jail. Just makes you wonder what else is going on around the world of college football.

And people say the NFL isn't a pure game....

[Jones31]

Have you seen the allegations made towards Bama here recently?

[TitansFan23]

I'm stunned.

No way that happened at Mia..... :lol

[Johnnyb]

Have you seen the allegations made towards Bama here recently?

What allegations would you be refferring to? The ones about the suits? Cus if that's what you're talking about then I'm going to roll on the floor laughing....

[TitansJonne]

i don't see why these players do this? It NEVER stays private. Sooner or later the guy you trusted is going to blow the whistle unless you keep his mouth shut for life. Too much of a hassle if you ask me.

[Johnnyb]

Because they're high school kids who are getting money, women, fame, attention, cars, trips, clubs, and who knows what else thrown at them. Some kids have been brought up better than to do take those things, but some of these kids have never had any of this and want to have a little piece of it. I do not agree with any of their actions, and I certainly don't see them as innocent parties, but at the same time these guys are young and dumb.

[ZachLV27]

i don't see why these players do this? It NEVER stays private. Sooner or later the guy you trusted is going to blow the whistle unless you keep his mouth shut for life. Too much of a hassle if you ask me.

These guys don't have anything to lose. They don't get in trouble for any of this and they don't have to give back any of the money.

Look at a guy like Vince Wilfork. Both of his parents died when he was in high school. His life was pretty much bad as it could get at the time. I don't blame him one bit for taking a $50,000 payment.

[315]

They should find some way to actually punish the boosters and coaches .

[TitansFan23]

They should find some way to actually punish the boosters and coaches .

Or they should call it what it is (the minor league of the NFL) and let them get paid.

I know that opens big can of worms, but it's a thought.

[Sect309Fan]

They should find some way to actually punish the boosters and coaches .

At least this booster is in jail for 20 years. And coaches are getting punished more as well. Pearl and Tressel may never coach again (though we will have to see). It's just hard to have lasting punishment.


Or they should call it what it is (the minor league of the NFL) and let them get paid.

I know that opens big can of worms, but it's a thought.

It just could never work for three major reasons:

1. Stars vs. backups - Right now, all football players (besides walk-ons) get a full scholarship. It's all equal, but the stars are always going to want more than the non-stars. That is where most of the booster problems reside since they give most of their money to the stars, not to everyone. So unless their is a salary structure based on talent, like the NFL, it wouldn't work.

2. Big schools vs. little schools - Big schools have rich boosters than can afford to give money to star football and basketball players. Little schools generally don't. All schools have to offer full scholarships. The big ones can generate that money from boosters and season ticket sales. The little ones generate it from tax dollars and student fees. So the source of the money to pay athletes is completely different.

3. Title IX and other sports - Schools have to base their scholarships on the gender balance at their school. For the most part, their are more female students at universities than male students, so more money has to be paid out to female athletes than male athletes. And if you pay one group of athletes, they don't you have to pay all athletes at the school?

[Titansfan777]

I'm just waiting for the Big10, SEC, Pac-12, ACC, and Big East to make their own League totally apart from the NCAA. Wouldn't really surprise me one bit

[ZachLV27]

I'm just waiting for the Big10, SEC, Pac-12, ACC, and Big East to make their own League totally apart from the NCAA. Wouldn't really surprise me one bit

The NCAA was created by all these schools. Why would they cut them out of it? The Presidents at all the major schools know that the NCAA is a cash cow and they aren't going to do anything to harm their bottom line.

[Count Telecky]

In addition to the allegations involving coaches playing active roles in major violations, Shapiro was also the co-owner of Axcess Sports & Entertainment, a sports representation agency. Shapiro claims the agency — Shapiro’s partner was Michael Huyghue, currently the commissioner of the UFL — funneled money to former Miami players Vince Wilfork and Jon Beason, as well as dozens of other unnamed players. Wilfork, Shapiro claimed, was paid a lump sum of $50,000 while he was a Miami player as an inducement to sign with Axcess; Wilfork ultimately signed with the agency before becoming a first-round pick in the NFL draft.

The NFL needs to start revoking the licenses for theses agents and agencies that are ultimately the ones that are behind most of this. A lifetime ban for agents would go a long way toward cleaning up these problems

[TitansGiantsBears]

The NFL needs to start revoking the licenses for theses agents and agencies that are ultimately the ones that are behind most of this. A lifetime ban for agents would go a long way toward cleaning up these problems

It isn't the NFL's responsibility to clean up college football which is one reason I disagree with the commish's 5 game suspension for Pryor. College football needs to clean up its own messes.

[ZachLV27]

It isn't the NFL's responsibility to clean up college football which is one reason I disagree with the commish's 5 game suspension for Pryor. College football needs to clean up its own messes.

I'd have no problem if the NFL and NCAA worked together. The NFL basically uses the NCAA as its minor league system so they benefit from the relationship. In protecting the NCAA's product they are also helping protect their own future product.

[Orca]

I'm just waiting for the Big10, SEC, Pac-12, ACC, and Big East to make their own League totally apart from the NCAA. Wouldn't really surprise me one bit

There will still need to be an NCAA equivalent to write and enforce rules, otherwise chaos.