View Full Version : is a 4-2 start to the season realistic and/or acceptable??
Rolltide14TOMB
05-13-2009, 05:28 PM
or will we be happy at 3-3?
im thinking we will (on paper)
probably lose to Pittsburgh
beat houston
beat NYJ
beat Jax
beat INdy
lose to New England
however the Indy game could go either way and considering our fortune at the Jets who knows....we CANNOT afford to lose early to jax, houston, and/or Indy....im thinking 2-1 in those games is a must...need to beat indy and houston at home...and we SHOULD beat jax on the road but just to be safe i will say 2-1...(even though a more likely outcome would be beat Houston and jax and lose to Indy)
im just putting an L beside New england because i do not believe we are better than them.
so im looking at 4-2...3-3...although 5-1 would be like a gift from the gods..start 5-0 then lose to Pats
discuss
chronbrownie012
05-13-2009, 06:26 PM
6-0:drunk
Toronto
05-13-2009, 06:49 PM
I called for a 3-3 start last year, so shows what predictions mean...
On paper it's not an easy sched - but I can't see the club doing worse than
3-3 or 4-2...
Rolltide14TOMB
05-13-2009, 06:51 PM
I called for a 3-3 start last year, so shows what predictions mean
maybe in hindsight a 3-3 start would have been BETTER :ohmy
maybe we could have saved our peak 10-0 spurt for the latter part of the season
or will we be happy at 3-3?
To me it all depends what the rest of our division has done up to that point.
Rolltide14TOMB
05-13-2009, 06:54 PM
To me it all depends what the rest of our division has done up to that point
good point...we will have a say in that
good point...we will have a say in that
I wont mind playing catch up at some point.... but I DAMN sure dont want to be chasing 2 teams in our division.
Sect309Fan
05-13-2009, 07:12 PM
I would be pretty happy with 3-3, with one exception. If we beat Indy, Pittsburgh, and New England and lose the other three, I would be upset.
Rolltide14TOMB
05-13-2009, 07:15 PM
If we beat Indy, Pittsburgh, and New England and lose the other three, I would be upset
proves we can beat anybody in the league...just means we have 10 more games to iron out our consistency :thumbsup
Fairweather Fan
05-13-2009, 07:32 PM
We lose to Pittsburgh on paper? Turn off ESPN! I don't see were they have upgraded that offensive line. That was their downfall last year. Nothing will have changed come opening game. They drafted a couple linemen, but they aren't going to stop our d-line. We don't have Haynesworth now, but we didn't have hime when we played them last time. I think we beat them on paper as well as opening day.
Rolltide14TOMB
05-13-2009, 07:44 PM
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We lose to Pittsburgh on paper? Turn off ESPN! I don't see were they have upgraded that offensive line. That was their downfall last year. Nothing will have changed come opening game. They drafted a couple linemen, but they aren't going to stop our d-line. We don't have Haynesworth now, but we didn't have hime when we played them last time. I think we beat them on paper as well as opening day.
Heintz field.
sorry i cant resist this comment....im guessing if we are 3-3 we wont be hearing from you anymore??? :hide
Fairweather Fan
05-13-2009, 08:28 PM
Heintz field.
sorry i cant resist this comment....im guessing if we are 3-3 we wont be hearing from you anymore??? :hide
Any less than 6-0 and I'm jumping bandwagons.
titansikou
05-13-2009, 08:47 PM
I'm not one for making these sorts of predictions. I think we will do well this season because of the playoff loss - players playing with a chip on their shoulder - and because of improvements on offense. I do wonder if we will continue to be as dominant on defense though. We may be put in a position this year where the offense has to go out and win the game for us, if you know what I mean.
Also, the other question mark is over special teams. Without Carr will we have the same return game? Remember, in 2007 we were often playing from deep in our own territory and did not have much in the way of big play potential.
I'm hoping to whip NE. We still need to pay those guys back for 2006.
Rolltide14TOMB
05-13-2009, 08:54 PM
I'm hoping to whip NE. We still need to pay those guys back for 2006.
heck i wanna pay em pack for the playoff game...
im am not worried at all about the return game...i think a little more speed back there wouldnt hurt...we could use AT LEAST one TD on kick offs or punts
chronbrownie012
05-13-2009, 09:26 PM
heck i wanna pay em pack for the playoff game...
im am not worried at all about the return game...i think a little more speed back there wouldnt hurt...we could use AT LEAST one TD on kick offs or punts
Maybe we can sign dropsy drew back and this time he can catch the pass
TRUTitan
05-14-2009, 02:55 AM
I see us going 5-1 if not 6-0.
beat Pittsburgh
probably lose to houston :cry
beat NYJ
beat Jax
beat INdy
Beat New England
Pittsburgh will be looking for revenge, but will not have what it takes to get it.
Houston is a team that worries me, you get some consistent play out of Schaub then Houston is a playoff caliber team. Plus we do not have the same OOFFFMM in our D-Line as we did with Big Al. But the D-line will be better than people think.
Jax is rebuilding. Indy and NYJ are under a new coach and will be fighting to survive this year. I am especially interested to see how far Indy will fall without Dungy running the defense, without Marvin, and with an aging QB.
New England is not worrying me because besides the change of offensive coordinators. We don't know how Tom will come back after this knee injury. Plus he will be rusty. Knee injuries are career killers for QBs. Messes up the mechanics of their throws and soometimes they never recover.
wari0
05-14-2009, 07:29 AM
I think alot of people will be suprised by what the titans can do in the pitt game. The tension is already building for that game and the Titans are going to go off. I think itll set the tone for the season.
Sect309Fan
05-14-2009, 10:13 AM
Heintz field.
The Titans have a winning record in Pittsburgh. That place doesn't scare us.
tyrant28
05-14-2009, 11:19 AM
as long as we have more wins that losses, i am fine with whatever the start is. i refuse though, refuse to make predictions on records, what our start will be , until after pre season!
ChrisJohnson'sdreads
05-14-2009, 12:15 PM
I would be pretty happy with 3-3, with one exception. If we beat Indy, Pittsburgh, and New England and lose the other three, I would be upset.
:thumbsup
gnarl
05-14-2009, 01:57 PM
i say 5-1 or 4-2.
i really dont see us losing to pittsburgh, new york or the jags.
and i think we run all over new england and keep there offense off the field.
alabamawoody
05-14-2009, 05:55 PM
I'm with kim, hate to make predictions---makes me nervous just thinking about it---all I know is in 119 days, 1 hr and roughly 30 minutes---GAME ON!!!!!!!
tyrant28
05-14-2009, 06:06 PM
and it also seems that every time i make predictions, i jinx everything, so i finally got fed up, and last year decided not to make predictions, and it worked, this year, i am taking the same approach my fellow titanites! if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
TitansGiantsBears
05-14-2009, 11:25 PM
I see 2-4 or 3-3 start at best.
TRUTitan
05-15-2009, 02:02 AM
I see 2-4 or 3-3 start at best.
I hope you are wrong friend.
I think we are better than the first 6 teams we are playing.
Sect309Fan
05-15-2009, 07:21 AM
I hope you are wrong friend.
I think we are better than the first 6 teams we are playing.
The media doesn't think so. They have Pittsburgh, Indy, and New England all ranked ahead of us. ;)
TitansGiantsBears
05-15-2009, 07:29 AM
I hope you are wrong friend.
I think we are better than the first 6 teams we are playing.
I hope so too. Some crow tastes so sweet! :thumbsup
Rolltide14TOMB
05-15-2009, 08:41 AM
They have Pittsburgh, Indy, and New England all ranked ahead of us.
well its hard to blame them....they only look at paper when ranking them...we lost albert so we are a worse team...that is all they think...
they pay no attention to the intangibles....
1. best o-line in football
2. 2nd best RB in football and a slimmer backuip
3. damn accurate QB and a veteran leader
4. we are pissed off
5. addressed our weaknesses by adding future pro bowlers in Cook and Britt
6. best d-line coach in football
7. top 5 coach in the league
8. a secondary littered with pro bowlers
but hey those other teams have Peyton Manning and Big Ben and we all know thats all that matters.......:crazy
im sorry but i am gonna have to concede that New England is a better team than us when Brady his healthy...but that doesnt mean we cant be as good as them by seasons end...
Sect309Fan
05-15-2009, 09:17 AM
Fans and media like to look at quarterbacks to judge teams. Brady, Manning, and Big Ben are three future Hall of Famers.
I would like to see Collins have a big year this year. He will never have the numbers of Brady or Manning, but he could be close to Ben. Ben isn't a hall of famer because of stats. He is there because he wins games, lots of games. Collins can do that too.
DelawareTitans
05-15-2009, 10:23 AM
I would at least like them to start 1-0. To beat the defending SB Champs in their building on opening night with those yellow towels waving around would be sweet indeed.
TitansGiantsBears
05-15-2009, 01:34 PM
they pay no attention to the intangibles....
1. best o-line in football
If not the best then certainly among the best. Top 5 anyway.
2. 2nd best RB in football and a slimmer backuip
Chris is easily a top 10 back. I wouldn't put him as high as #2. In my book, Peterson would be #1, Turner #2, and DeAngelo Williams #3. I'd probably insert Jacobs as #4 and CJ as maybe #5, but there are several guys that could also be #5 - Slaton and Forte come to mind right off the bat.
3. damn accurate QB and a veteran leader
Agreed. With his age though, the Titans are a hit away from Vince being the QB and then it goes all to hell.
4. we are pissed off
So are 31 other teams. This is probably the most overrated argument to give any team an edge.
5. addressed our weaknesses by adding future pro bowlers in Cook and Britt
That remains to be seen. A Titans fan wearing Columbia Blue glasses may see it that way. Right now they're two rookies who have accomplished nothing on the field in the NFL. They could be potential busts, just like any other highly touted rookies.
6. best d-line coach in football
Agreed. :bowdown
7. top 5 coach in the league
Agreed, but until he wins a Super Bowl Fisher's just another coach who hasn't won the big game. He's quickly closing in on Bud Grant for most seasons with the same team without winning a Super Bowl. Grant coached 17 seasons with the same team without winning one.
8. a secondary littered with pro bowlers
Our #1 corner was exposed in the Pro Bowl with poor coverage skills when the D-line doesn't get to rush. He was the NFC whipping boy. He played like a 7th rounder. I'm afraid this is the Finnegan we'll see this year without Al providing that bull rush up the middle. But that's another thread. Harper will be a year older and his cover skills were already suspect. Both are great tacklers however. Hope and Griffin are both solid but also benefitted from Haynesworth's dominance. It's easy for a secondary to look good when the QB has to rush the throw every time he drops back.
but hey those other teams have Peyton Manning and Big Ben and we all know thats all that matters.......:crazy
Those other teams have also shown they can win a Super Bowl and not fold like a cheap tent in a thunderstorm when the playoffs start. They've played in and won the big games. Both teams are loaded with players who have been there, as well as New England. Until the Titans show they belong in the same breath as those teams they will rightfully get less respect.
Titanico
05-15-2009, 01:43 PM
It's hard to tell.
I am placing my money on how we play, the circumstances around each game and how they are OFFICIATED.
We know that those effin zebras can screw us and good.
To be honest, we should be a 4-2, 5-1 caliber team. In that way our team could start turning heads seriously in our direction.
Sect309Fan
05-15-2009, 01:56 PM
Our #1 corner was exposed in the Pro Bowl with poor coverage skills when the D-line doesn't get to rush. He was the NFC whipping boy. He played like a 7th rounder. I'm afraid this is the Finnegan we'll see this year without Al providing that bull rush up the middle. But that's another thread.
I don't put any stock in Finnegan's pro bowl performance. Just like in the NBA or NHL all-star games, defense gets the shaft no matter how good the players are. Finnegan is still a tremendous corner, and I imagine he will play well against Fitz in the real game later this year.
Fairweather Fan
05-15-2009, 03:22 PM
I don't put any stock in Finnegan's pro bowl performance. Just like in the NBA or NHL all-star games, defense gets the shaft no matter how good the players are. Finnegan is still a tremendous corner, and I imagine he will play well against Fitz in the real game later this year.
Not only that, but the game is meaningless and everyone would be pissed off if Cortland brought his scrappy style to the probowl. That performance meant nothing.
titan4ever
05-15-2009, 10:05 PM
Our #1 corner was exposed in the Pro Bowl with poor coverage skills when the D-line doesn't get to rush. He was the NFC whipping boy. He played like a 7th rounder. I'm afraid this is the Finnegan we'll see this year without Al providing that bull rush up the middle. But that's another thread. Harper will be a year older and his cover skills were already suspect. Both are great tacklers however. Hope and Griffin are both solid but also benefitted from Haynesworth's dominance. It's easy for a secondary to look good when the QB has to rush the throw every time he drops back.
I took you seriously up till this point. The pro bowl is nothing. The rules favor the O and the WR for sure. DBs can not play cover two which means that the corners are left on an island. Also cover blitzes are not allowed which allows the WR to make two cuts with no worry of a pass rush.
Finnegan is a shut down corner and will play at a pro bowl level again this year.
TRUTitan
05-15-2009, 11:02 PM
Chris is easily a top 10 back. I wouldn't put him as high as #2. In my book, Peterson would be #1, Turner #2, and DeAngelo Williams #3. I'd probably insert Jacobs as #4 and CJ as maybe #5, but there are several guys that could also be #5 - Slaton and Forte come to mind right off the bat.
I wouldn't say that D Williams is better than CJ either. I agree with everything else.
Agreed. With his age though, the Titans are a hit away from Vince being the QB and then it goes all to hell.
VY can do everything that KC did last year. There might have been a couple lobs down field that VY would've been a little suspect on, but otherwise he could've done everything that KC did last year. If only he had the maturity. This year you never know VY can walk in there and surprise everyone.
gnarl
05-16-2009, 02:27 PM
to add on the finnegan pro bowl comment
honestly, who didnt look like a 7th round corner facing fitzgerald this year?
Livid13
05-16-2009, 05:24 PM
You know, I don't want this to come off as combative. HOWEVER, didn't you (as fans) learn ANYTHING from last year ? I'm a firm believer in home-field advantage in the playoffs, although last season proved me dead wrong. I think it's important for certain teams to avoid the road, if at all possible, come the playoffs. I think the Titans are one of those teams. Do you win in January in Pittsburgh, or Baltimore ? I think not. Your main concern is that your key players are HEALTHY! I don't see you having as many wins as last season. This is a VERY competitive division and YES that includes the Texans and Jags. I wouldn't worry about predictions, especially that early in the season....
Sect309Fan
05-16-2009, 05:35 PM
. Do you win in January in Pittsburgh, or Baltimore ? .
Those are probably two of the places I would have the most confidence in winning. The Titans have a winning record in Pittsburgh, and they beat Baltimore in a playoff game on the road already.
The places I don't want the Titans to play on the road in January are New England, San Diego, or Oakland.
Livid13
05-16-2009, 05:59 PM
It's funny about Oakland, sin't it ? I remember Phillip Buchanon having a world class game against you guys there. You're right about New England too. San Diego STILL has that "soft" reputation, imo.
TitansGiantsBears
05-17-2009, 12:29 PM
to add on the finnegan pro bowl comment
honestly, who didnt look like a 7th round corner facing fitzgerald this year?
Good point. :thumbsup
TitansGiantsBears
05-17-2009, 12:40 PM
I took you seriously up till this point. The pro bowl is nothing. The rules favor the O and the WR for sure. DBs can not play cover two which means that the corners are left on an island. Also cover blitzes are not allowed which allows the WR to make two cuts with no worry of a pass rush.
Finnegan is a shut down corner and will play at a pro bowl level again this year.
I agree that the rules favor the offense in the Pro Bowl, but it was obvious who the NFC picked on. My point in mentioning the Pro Bowl is that Cortland (and the entire secondary) will see a lot more Pro Bowl-like situations this year without the bullrush of last year.
I think the Pro Bowl showed that when it comes to pure coverage skills Cortland isn't as good as his stat sheet would lead you to believe. Without the advantages of a real rush up front, cover blitzes, etc, he is lacking.
The good news is that he's a very hard worker. He's very fiery and determined and a tenacious tackler. By far, he's one of my favorite players on the team. He earned his Pro Bowl spot last year and it was no easy task considering that he was a seventh round pick on a team from a small market. He made people pay attention to him for the right reasons.
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