PBV
06-27-2009, 04:57 PM
I was reading this
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/27/players-are-starting-to-figure-out-that-the-uncapped-year-is-a-mirage/
[Regarding an uncapped season]....And so a team can choose to fill its roster with younger players, whose minimum salaries for 2010 range from $545,000 for a fourth-year player and $320,000 for a rookie.
Thus, with a salary floor of $111 million in 2009, a team could (if it chooses) spend under $50 million in 2010 on player costs.
But what about the big-name players with high-end multi-year deals? Well, those players can be dumped (and thus their salaries avoided) with no salary cap consequences at all, because there will be no salary cap.
Then there’s the reality that the minimum years of service for unrestricted free agency will jump from four years to six. As a result, a team will be able to squat on a key player’s rights for another season at an investment far lower than the franchise tag.
So Desmond Clark is right. Only a small number of NFL players will cash in. The rest of them will be screwed.
As to those who cash in, how much more will they really earn beyond the current top of the market at the various positions? In our view, the current going rates for elite players won’t suddenly jump dramatically because there’s no salary cap.
Bottom line? The guys who would get paid huge amounts with a salary cap will get roughly the same money in an uncapped environment. For the rest of the players, the dollars will stay the same, and maybe drop.....
I think this is a real interesting subject to discuss concerning the Titans' roster.
Which players does this effect?
According to this VY or Kerry can be cut without a cap effect. (all teams will want to clear their books before a new CBA can be agreed upon and teams are forced to use a cap again.)
Whose contracts, beside VY's and Kerry's, are at risk of getting cut? (Teams will have an opportunity to cut bait with any and every unwanted contract)
(here's the whole rosters' contracts)
http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/clubhouse_contracts.aspx?sport=NFL&majteam=TEN
Which players will actually be free agents? (I'm assuming any rookie drafted by the Titans from 2005 on, will have to wait to have six seasons of service to qualify for Free Agency.) Scaife? White? Tulloch? Does this mean we don't have to franchise Scaife to keep him? Maybe just give him a high Exclusive Tender
Will we tag 2 players?
http://www.profootball24x7.com/column_view.php?cid=46&aid=3261&view=archive
2010: THE “UNCAPPED YEAR”
NEW RULE – SIX YEARS OF SERVICE TIME TO REACH FREE AGENCY: A player will not become an Unrestricted Free Agent (UFA) until after he completes his 6th “accrued season” in the league.
OLD RULE: In the past, a player with 3 years of accrued service would become a Restricted Free Agent (RFA) and a player with 4 years of service time would become a UFA.
RAMIFICATIONS: A longer period of time before players can reach unrestricted free agency means a lot less players being available as Free Agents in 2010. Players with 4 or 5 years of accrued service will only be RFAs and subject to their present teams being able to maintain contractual rights over them via a RFA tender (and the right to match any offer sheet signed with another team or receive draft pick compensation.
NEW RULE –ADDITIONAL TRANSITIONAL TAG: In 2010, each team will be able to use an additional Transitional Tag to use.
OLD RULE: Under the old rule, a team could use either its Franchise Tag or its Transition Tag, but not both.
RAMIFICATIONS: A team can use 2 Tags, one of which must be a Transition Tag. So, teams will have the ability to use a Franchise Tag and a Transition Tag or 2 Transition Tags.
Again, this will mean that there will be less Free Agents hitting the market, as teams will have to ability to keep more of their own players off of the market. Plus, with 2010 being uncapped, teams may be more likely – and willing – to pay the pricey Franchise tenders, since there is no Salary Cap to limit expenditures.
NEW RULE – THE FINAL EIGHT PLAN: This new set of rules limits the Free Agent activity of the 8 teams that reach the Divisional Round of the playoffs in 2009.
OLD RULE: There were no such limitations.
RAMIFICATIONS: Again, more limits on what teams – the good teams – can do in Free Agency. This rule, in theory, is in place to keep “the rich from getting richer” and essentially is aimed at prohibiting a good team from buying a championship.
Teams in the AFC and NFC Championship games can only sign a UFA after they have lost a FA of their own. They are allowed to sign players released by other teams and re-sign their own FAs.
The other 4 teams in the Final 8 have the same prohibition, but can also sign some FAs based on certain salary restrictions. These restrictions basically are aimed at keeping them from signing top tier FAs.
NEW RULE – NO LEAGUE MINIMUM SALARY: There will be no league minimum amount that a team must spend on player salaries.
OLD RULE: Since the advent of the Salary Cap, not only has there been a maximum that a team can spend, but there has always been a minimum that teams must spend.
RAMIFICATIONS: While many often thing the “uncapped year” is going to be a wild spending free-for-all, it is also possible that some teams may spend less than in the past....
Who are the candidates for being Tagged?
Titans 2010 Free Agents
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Patrick Ramsey UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
RB LenDale White UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
TE Alge Crumpler UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
TE Bo Scaife UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
C Eugene Amano UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
C Kevin Mawae UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
DL Tony Brown UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
DL Kyle Vanden Bosch UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
LB Ken Amato UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
LB Keith Bulluck UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
LB Stephen Tulloch UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent (won't be a FA anyways, right?)
CB Nick Harper UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
I don't think we can Franchise players that came to us as Free Agents right? Players like Mawae, and Brown right? Only players the Titans drafted?
What do you think Bud will do? Go cheap/stay the same/spend?
Anyways, I just think these implications are interesting. :D
Happy Offseason!
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/27/players-are-starting-to-figure-out-that-the-uncapped-year-is-a-mirage/
[Regarding an uncapped season]....And so a team can choose to fill its roster with younger players, whose minimum salaries for 2010 range from $545,000 for a fourth-year player and $320,000 for a rookie.
Thus, with a salary floor of $111 million in 2009, a team could (if it chooses) spend under $50 million in 2010 on player costs.
But what about the big-name players with high-end multi-year deals? Well, those players can be dumped (and thus their salaries avoided) with no salary cap consequences at all, because there will be no salary cap.
Then there’s the reality that the minimum years of service for unrestricted free agency will jump from four years to six. As a result, a team will be able to squat on a key player’s rights for another season at an investment far lower than the franchise tag.
So Desmond Clark is right. Only a small number of NFL players will cash in. The rest of them will be screwed.
As to those who cash in, how much more will they really earn beyond the current top of the market at the various positions? In our view, the current going rates for elite players won’t suddenly jump dramatically because there’s no salary cap.
Bottom line? The guys who would get paid huge amounts with a salary cap will get roughly the same money in an uncapped environment. For the rest of the players, the dollars will stay the same, and maybe drop.....
I think this is a real interesting subject to discuss concerning the Titans' roster.
Which players does this effect?
According to this VY or Kerry can be cut without a cap effect. (all teams will want to clear their books before a new CBA can be agreed upon and teams are forced to use a cap again.)
Whose contracts, beside VY's and Kerry's, are at risk of getting cut? (Teams will have an opportunity to cut bait with any and every unwanted contract)
(here's the whole rosters' contracts)
http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/clubhouse_contracts.aspx?sport=NFL&majteam=TEN
Which players will actually be free agents? (I'm assuming any rookie drafted by the Titans from 2005 on, will have to wait to have six seasons of service to qualify for Free Agency.) Scaife? White? Tulloch? Does this mean we don't have to franchise Scaife to keep him? Maybe just give him a high Exclusive Tender
Will we tag 2 players?
http://www.profootball24x7.com/column_view.php?cid=46&aid=3261&view=archive
2010: THE “UNCAPPED YEAR”
NEW RULE – SIX YEARS OF SERVICE TIME TO REACH FREE AGENCY: A player will not become an Unrestricted Free Agent (UFA) until after he completes his 6th “accrued season” in the league.
OLD RULE: In the past, a player with 3 years of accrued service would become a Restricted Free Agent (RFA) and a player with 4 years of service time would become a UFA.
RAMIFICATIONS: A longer period of time before players can reach unrestricted free agency means a lot less players being available as Free Agents in 2010. Players with 4 or 5 years of accrued service will only be RFAs and subject to their present teams being able to maintain contractual rights over them via a RFA tender (and the right to match any offer sheet signed with another team or receive draft pick compensation.
NEW RULE –ADDITIONAL TRANSITIONAL TAG: In 2010, each team will be able to use an additional Transitional Tag to use.
OLD RULE: Under the old rule, a team could use either its Franchise Tag or its Transition Tag, but not both.
RAMIFICATIONS: A team can use 2 Tags, one of which must be a Transition Tag. So, teams will have the ability to use a Franchise Tag and a Transition Tag or 2 Transition Tags.
Again, this will mean that there will be less Free Agents hitting the market, as teams will have to ability to keep more of their own players off of the market. Plus, with 2010 being uncapped, teams may be more likely – and willing – to pay the pricey Franchise tenders, since there is no Salary Cap to limit expenditures.
NEW RULE – THE FINAL EIGHT PLAN: This new set of rules limits the Free Agent activity of the 8 teams that reach the Divisional Round of the playoffs in 2009.
OLD RULE: There were no such limitations.
RAMIFICATIONS: Again, more limits on what teams – the good teams – can do in Free Agency. This rule, in theory, is in place to keep “the rich from getting richer” and essentially is aimed at prohibiting a good team from buying a championship.
Teams in the AFC and NFC Championship games can only sign a UFA after they have lost a FA of their own. They are allowed to sign players released by other teams and re-sign their own FAs.
The other 4 teams in the Final 8 have the same prohibition, but can also sign some FAs based on certain salary restrictions. These restrictions basically are aimed at keeping them from signing top tier FAs.
NEW RULE – NO LEAGUE MINIMUM SALARY: There will be no league minimum amount that a team must spend on player salaries.
OLD RULE: Since the advent of the Salary Cap, not only has there been a maximum that a team can spend, but there has always been a minimum that teams must spend.
RAMIFICATIONS: While many often thing the “uncapped year” is going to be a wild spending free-for-all, it is also possible that some teams may spend less than in the past....
Who are the candidates for being Tagged?
Titans 2010 Free Agents
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Patrick Ramsey UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
RB LenDale White UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
TE Alge Crumpler UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
TE Bo Scaife UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
C Eugene Amano UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
C Kevin Mawae UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
DL Tony Brown UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
DL Kyle Vanden Bosch UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
LB Ken Amato UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
LB Keith Bulluck UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
LB Stephen Tulloch UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent (won't be a FA anyways, right?)
CB Nick Harper UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
I don't think we can Franchise players that came to us as Free Agents right? Players like Mawae, and Brown right? Only players the Titans drafted?
What do you think Bud will do? Go cheap/stay the same/spend?
Anyways, I just think these implications are interesting. :D
Happy Offseason!