Collins article (NCP)

[Yvette]

“In the past, I’ve gone home for a week or so and not been around for a week or two at a time, but it’s more important for me to be here day in and day out,” Collins said.

“Usually this time of year, I got home and I wait till the very last minute to come back to camp, but I’m going to come back at least 10 days early and make sure that I’m here and doing all the things necessary to make sure I’m ready once camp starts,” Collins said.

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/sports/collins-took-his-time-recognize-his-role-leader
I like that a lot even if the only gain is time with the trainers.

[Sect309Fan]

It has been 5 years since he went into a training camp as the starter. I am sure he wants to keep this job for as long as he can, and this is one way that helps.

Collins is entering this season with a 79-85 regular season record as a starting QB. A 11-5 season would get him back to .500. (Also, he has a 3-4 postseason record, so he will be looking for at least 2 postseason wins as well).

[Titanico]

Is great to know what Collins is doing. There's no other way to be as good as possible, but preparing.

Glad to know that he is taking things so seriously.

[tyrant28]

and the team is also as a whole, you just feel it, since it! i can't wait for the season to start, i am chomping at the bit!

[Mike McFan]

He has a door ?
How did he get his own door ?:huh

[Titanico]

He has a door ?
How did he get his own door ?:huh

Called a carpenter?

[Aceonline]

Iimagine if he has another season like last year... You won't hear " manage the game" said at all. They will start to compare him to Warner and Bledsoe. He doesn't have half the weapons of those 2.

[shadowboxin']

If he duplicates last season he shouldn't be compared to anyone. He had an average season at best last year, it just seemed like an All-Pro performance because there was 10 less interceptions.

Then again, all we need is an average aerial game to complement the ground attack. However this year we should have the ability to use to the passing game as a weapon, not a fail-safe to the running game.

[315]

I wonder if he is worried that someone is nipping at his heels..... or just is it just that decided to rededicate himself?

[Sect309Fan]

I wonder if he is worried that someone is nipping at his heels..... or just is it just that decided to rededicate himself?

Like I posted earlier, this is the first time in 5 years that he goes into camp as the starter. I am sure he was as suprised as anyone that he replaced Vince last year. I can't imagine him going into last year's camp trying to win the starter's job. He probably just wanted to be the best backup he could be.

Of course his stay at starter is highly dependent on how he plays and how much Vince has improved.

[Old Oilers Fan]

Like I posted earlier, this is the first time in 5 years that he goes into camp as the starter. I am sure he was as suprised as anyone that he replaced Vince last year. I can't imagine him going into last year's camp trying to win the starter's job. He probably just wanted to be the best backup he could be.

Of course his stay at starter is highly dependent on how he plays and how much Vince has improved.

If I am not mistaken Collins rededicated himself last year when he felt that Vince could lose his job for not taking it serious. I also think that the old vet is showing the young toms that to make it in the NFL you have to work for it. Collins knows that the job is his to lose so he is taking all steps to keep his job. I hope that Vince is taking notes to know what needs to be done. This is just my opinion and I have nothing to back it up.

[Sect309Fan]

If I am not mistaken Collins rededicated himself last year when he felt that Vince could lose his job for not taking it serious.

Collins did lose weight and got into better shape last offseason. But there was no indication that Vince would lose his starting job at any point. And Collins was as bad as Vince in the preseason. (All 3 QBs were pretty bad, throwing a combined 1 TD pass).

[Old Oilers Fan]

Collins did lose weight and got into better shape last offseason. But there was no indication that Vince would lose his starting job at any point. And Collins was as bad as Vince in the preseason. (All 3 QBs were pretty bad, throwing a combined 1 TD pass).

I don't know if it was a indication but Vince choosing to go back to school rather than work with the new Offensive Coordinator could have Collins thinking. I agree with you all three QB didn't act like they could have ran away with the job.

[Sect309Fan]

I don't know if it was a indication but Vince choosing to go back to school rather than work with the new Offensive Coordinator could have Collins thinking

That's BS. Vince was working with Dinger plenty in the offseason. He spent his weekdays at Texas and his weekends with the Titans.

[TTP77]

I completely disagree with you 309. What evidence do you have to support the fact that "Vince worked plenty with Dinger in the 2008 offseason?" His performances in the beginning sure didn't reflect it. I agree with OOF. I was worried at the time that it was a poor decision and IMO that belief is completely justified at this point.

[titansikou]

Wow. A bit of competition at the QB position and all our QBs are putting in everything they've got. This is going to be a fun training camp and should make for an excellent season on offense!

[Old Oilers Fan]

That's BS. Vince was working with Dinger plenty in the offseason. He spent his weekdays at Texas and his weekends with the Titans.

Then why would Coach Fisher say what he did about Vince? That he needs to spend his off season in Nashville working with the team and all. Something tells me the week end work just wasn't enough last season.

[Sect309Fan]

Actually, he worked Thursdays and Fridays with Dinger. http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1144739/index.htm

The point is that the Titans gave Vince their blessings to finish his degree, and Dinger never once complained about his half-and-half schedule in the spring.

Of course when OTAs and Training camp hit, Vince was there every day.

Vince going to college IN THE SPRING had nothing to do with his performance last year. Nothing at all. Heck, Dinger was probably trying to figure his own playbook at that time, much less teaching it to anyone.

[Yvette]

Vince going to college IN THE SPRING had nothing to do with his performance last year.
So whatever the guys just finished doing has no bearing on their performance this season?

[Sect309Fan]

So whatever the guys just finished doing has no bearing on their performance this season?

First, Vince was there for all of that last year. He didn't miss any OTAs.

Second, to answer your question, not really, except for maybe the rookies. Chris Davis looked like one of our better receivers over these last OTA's, but he may not even make the team, much less see the field. You didn't hear hardly anything positive about CJ, and really not a whole about about any of the real starters.

OTA's are great for starting to evaluate talent and see if players are improving, but training camp and the preseason is where the real football begins.

[pookha]

That's BS. Vince was working with Dinger plenty in the offseason. He spent his weekdays at Texas and his weekends with the Titans.

but that didnt matter since the coaches are restricted to a certain number of days during the week to be involved with the team in the early part of the process.

[Old Oilers Fan]

Actually, he worked Thursdays and Fridays with Dinger. http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1144739/index.htm

The point is that the Titans gave Vince their blessings to finish his degree, and Dinger never once complained about his half-and-half schedule in the spring.

Of course when OTAs and Training camp hit, Vince was there every day.

Vince going to college IN THE SPRING had nothing to do with his performance last year. Nothing at all. Heck, Dinger was probably trying to figure his own playbook at that time, much less teaching it to anyone.


Was the blessing before Vince signed up for school? Anyways we are getting side tracked here. Collins must have seen something before last season to make him get in better shape. I think it was Vince lack of wanting to get better after his second year slump.

[Sect309Fan]

I think it was Vince lack of wanting to get better after his second year slump.

How can you possibly think such a thing?

Do you really believe that Vince went into the 2008 season thinking to himself "I just threw 9 TDs in 2007. I can't imaging trying to top that!"

Think people. Just think. :doh

[ZachLV27]

Actually, he worked Thursdays and Fridays with Dinger. http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1144739/index.htm

The point is that the Titans gave Vince their blessings to finish his degree, and Dinger never once complained about his half-and-half schedule in the spring.

Of course when OTAs and Training camp hit, Vince was there every day.

Vince going to college IN THE SPRING had nothing to do with his performance last year. Nothing at all. Heck, Dinger was probably trying to figure his own playbook at that time, much less teaching it to anyone.

If the Titans would have said anything along the lines of "No, you can't go back to school. You need to be here to learn the offense." the players union would have flipped. Even if they would have just said it as a "suggestion" it wouldn't have been received well.

Also, how can you say Vince going to college in the spring had nothing to do with how he played when this offseasons reports have been positive about him and most attribute that to him dedicating himself in the spring?

[Sect309Fan]

Also, how can you say Vince going to college in the spring had nothing to do with how he played when this offseasons reports have been positive about him and most attribute that to him dedicating himself in the spring?

And no one is giving him the starting job, are they?

If he starts this year, it will be because of how he does in training camp and the preseason, and how well (or poorly) Collins plays. All the stuff leading up to that are just warmups.

I also would love for someone to tell me what Vince actually did this spring before all the mini-camps and OTAs started.

[Old Oilers Fan]

How can you possibly think such a thing?

Do you really believe that Vince went into the 2008 season thinking to himself "I just threw 9 TDs in 2007. I can't imaging trying to top that!"

Think people. Just think. :doh

No but I think Vince thought the QB position was his and thought that he didn't need to put extra work in because he had nothing to lose because everyone loves him. Like I said this is just an opinion Collins seen or knew something. Why else he had a change of thought he sure didn't think it in the offseason before he became a Titan.

[Old Oilers Fan]

I also would love for someone to tell me what Vince actually did this spring before all the mini-camps and OTAs started.

What I took he stayed in Nashville to work at his game and get the players confidence back. Just like Fisher suggested that he do to get his job back.

[barnybyrd]

No but I think Vince thought the QB position was his and thought that he didn't need to put extra work in because he had nothing to lose because everyone loves him. Like I said this is just an opinion Collins seen or knew something. Why else he had a change of thought he sure didn't think it in the offseason before he became a Titan.

Kind of agree that Kerry might have sensed something wasn't right.
The things players know about each other from the locker room, that we don't and will never know.

[TTP77]

Fisher's comments on OTA's this year


NASHVILLE, Tenn. - The Tennessee Titans have wrapped up their offseason, and coach Jeff Fisher wound up using only 12 of the 14 days allowed for what are called organized team activities. None involved a mandatory minicamp.

It's all part of a plan to make the Titans want to be around on their own.

"My personal feeling is if you have a commitment to the offseason program, there's no need to take advantage of the mandatory minicamp. I do not know why you would take a professional athlete in the middle of the offseason and make him practice twice a day. I think it's a setback," Fisher said.

"If you were to go ahead and have a mandatory minicamp, I think our attendance would drop off in the weeks to follow, and that's not the intention. What we want is a commitment to the program four to five days a week, and we're getting it."

http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-1/fisher-likes-players-commitment-to-off-season-program/ccc4a1ea-4b2e-4e6f-a854-7b69064000fb

[Aaron3322]

Fisher's comments on OTA's this year

[NASHVILLE, Tenn. - The Tennessee Titans have wrapped up their offseason, and coach Jeff Fisher wound up using only 12 of the 14 days allowed for what are called organized team activities. None involved a mandatory minicamp.

It's all part of a plan to make the Titans want to be around on their own.
"My personal feeling is if you have a commitment to the offseason program, there's no need to take advantage of the mandatory minicamp. I do not know why you would take a professional athlete in the middle of the offseason and make him practice twice a day. I think it's a setback," Fisher said.

"If you were to go ahead and have a mandatory minicamp, I think our attendance would drop off in the weeks to follow, and that's not the intention. What we want is a commitment to the program four to five days a week, and we're getting it."

http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-1/fisher-likes-players-commitment-to-off-season-program/ccc4a1ea-4b2e-4e6f-a854-7b69064000fb[/QUOTE]


Fish is a Genius.

[Yvette]

OTA's are great for starting to evaluate talent and see if players are improving...
It's probably easier to see if they are improving with 4-5 days a week than 2.

"What we want is a commitment to the program four to five days a week, and we're getting it."

Music to my ears :)