Dumbest Mistake we have made

[Rolltide14TOMB]

i am gonna have to say letting Derrick Mason go....truly horrible decision. We havent really lost to many players who have done much with other teams though. Could somebody remind we why we let Mason go? i know it was when we were cleaning house with Steve, eddie, freak, samari, and many others but why did we let Dmase go? Did he want to much money or something? that doesnt seem like a Mason manuever...i just cant remember for some reason

[RegulatRR27]

that was the beginning of the cap casualties. After the 2003 season we were able to keep everyone together but eddie/kearse in an attempt to give it one more rush at the superbowl. After that down season full of injuries, the cap caught up to us, and we really had no choice to start "rebuilding" by getting rid of the older more expensive players on the decline, in return for younger cheaper players who "should" have more upside.

now of course Mason has certainly back fired, but for the most part, kearse/eddie/ did nuthun when we let them go, Mcnair played average for 1 season, but was thought to be way better cuz the ravens started off 6-0 that year, but were still led by the defense. Rolle played a few solid seasons after he left, but keeping him on the team at that time would have did nuthun for us other than maybe mentoring younger guys. He would not have added enough wins to get in us the playoffs those down years, especially with Manning tearing it up those few years

[Aceonline]

PAC Man jones

[Sect309Fan]

I think the way Mason and Rolle refused to rework their contracts in the 2004 offseason had a lot to do with it. Their agent was Lamont Smith, who also represented Eddie George, who as we all know was cut that year.

So I really wasn't suprised when both Mason and Rolle were cut in 2005. The Titans front office usually gets rids of players quickly when they have a problem with a negotiation.

[TTP77]

The Titans have done some things I don't agree with. The Godfrey situation ranks pretty high. Drafting Andre Woolfolk among other busts. Pacman was at least talented.

[Rolltide14TOMB]

Andre Woolfolk was horrid....eric moulds and david givens sucked too

[Titanico]

Reynaldo Hill.

[315]

If the Titans plans were to ever let McNair groom VY... then not getting something worked worked out with #9 and letting him leave here the way he did.

If that was never in theirs plans then my thought is moot.

[Titangoober]

Thigpen, Givens, Godfrey, Eddie, ..........situation on each of these were diff on their departure, but BIG mistakes to say the least............

[Titangoober]

If the Titans plans were to ever let McNair groom VY... then not getting something worked worked out with #9 and letting him leave here the way he did.

If that was never in theirs plans then my thought is moot.


Steve made it very clear to us that he was NOT gonna groom VY............I think that was the beginning of VY's enthusiasm.........I believe VY has a mental block of that and he can remove that successfully.............

a mistake,,,,,,,,,,,yes,,,,,,,,on Steves part............

[Sect309Fan]

Reynaldo Hill.

Hill????

We turned a 7th round draft pick into a starter that has frankly had a better career than Pacman. Hill was a great pick for the Titans. The Titans problem was that it took way too long for them to find a better player than him.

[Sect309Fan]

Andre Woolfolk was horrid....eric moulds and david givens sucked too

Givens didn't suck. He just got hurt before he could contribute anything. Woolfolk unfortunately was hurt as well, and he never became the player he was drafted to be. Moulds was a league-minimum stopgap receiver that performed like one.


It's really hard for me to find a "dumb" mistake the Titans have made. I guess if I had to pick one, it would be not signing Haynesworth last year when they were only $1 million off. They really underestimated what he would be worth after a 2nd great season.

[Titanico]

Hill????

We turned a 7th round draft pick into a starter that has frankly had a better career than Pacman. Hill was a great pick for the Titans. The Titans problem was that it took way too long for them to find a better player than him.

But that starter was a very bad one. He got burned a lot of times, and yet he still was a starter.

It was a mistake to have him as a starter.

[TitanPop]

Dumbest mistake?

Picking VY in the draft, sticking it in the Txean's eye was all Bud had in mind with that move, they should have traded down a couple spots, took Cutler. I said it then and and am still saying it. I like VY, had and still have high hopes for him, but only time will tell if I am right or wrong.

Don't get me started on punkman, he is right up there with my statement above, except he killed himself with stupidity, much like Vick. You are who you hang with.

[TitansGiantsBears]

Reynaldo Hill.

If you mean drafting Hill, then I would say no. The Titans received great value out of Hill as a seventh-round pick. If you mean being stubborn and pretending the guy was starter material then I'd maybe agree.

I have to go with Sect309 on this one. Not signing Albert when they were so close a couple of years ago. You don't allow a game-changing DT to walk. It's easy to find a big body, but hard to find one who can play and move like a guy 50 pounds lighter.

[don28]

In no particular order:

Drafting Vince Young (still could turn out not to be a mistake; time is running out, though)
Drafting Adam "Pacman" Jones
Drafting Andre Woolfolk
Releasing Randall Godfrey after he agreed to rework his contract
Letting Albert Haynesworth leave? (time will tell on this one)
Trading Warren Moon (granted that was the Houston Oilers' days, but still a franchise blunder)

[Pastorini]

In no particular order:

Drafting Vince Young (still could turn out not to be a mistake; time is running out, though)
Drafting Adam "Pacman" Jones
Drafting Andre Woolfolk
Releasing Randall Godfrey after he agreed to rework his contract
Letting Albert Haynesworth leave? (time will tell on this one)
Trading Warren Moon (granted that was the Houston Oilers' days, but still a franchise blunder)

I respect your list. I just do not think Albert gave the team much choice really. Everyone wanted to keep him but at that price? I think that would have made things hard on the rest of the team. :)

[pookha]

Steve made it very clear to us that he was NOT gonna groom VY............I think that was the beginning of VY's enthusiasm.........I believe VY has a mental block of that and he can remove that successfully.............

a mistake,,,,,,,,,,,yes,,,,,,,,on Steves part............

actually steve only wanted a quarantee he would play for one year.
he and his agent were willing to negotiate but the titans rather
floyed gave them an offer that was more for a back up qb and not a starter and never were willing to give another offer after that.

if they had gone to steve and said here we will quarantee you start this next season and then we will transition vince in after that i suspect steve would have considered it.

but bud especially wanted to push vince as quickly as possible.
and frankly due to the crazy salaries i suspect pushing these high draft
pick qb's out as quickly as possible will be the new norm for awhile.

[Carter]

Drafting Chris Henry.
Spending that high of pick on an unproven product that could have been signed in the latter rounds.
I doubt if he was that high on any one's draft board.

[nikki32]

If the Titans plans were to ever let McNair groom VY... then not getting something worked worked out with #9 and letting him leave here the way he did.

If that was never in theirs plans then my thought is moot.

You took the words right out of my mouth. I thought when VY was drafted wow...what a great fit...gets to learn NFL under his mentor...but then...well we know what happened next. But there is no blame it just would have been a great learning environment.

[Titanico]

If you mean being stubborn and pretending the guy was starter material then I'd maybe agree.



That's what I am talking about.

[TRUTitan]

I think letting Mason go and not leaving Mac around to groom VY is the worst mistakes this franchise has made. The thing about these mistakes is the organization seemed to know that these were mistakes and yet they still went ahead with it. I remember the reaction from the fan base on the TOMB in regards to letting Mac go was mostly concern that we had made a big mistake. Letting Eddie go also rates pretty high up there to me.

[Jones31]

They didn't have much of a choice on that.

[TRUTitan]

They didn't have much of a choice on that.

Which one?

[Jones31]

Mac

[pookha]

eddie is the one i see as their not having a choice.
he just really couldnt play any more with lack of stability in the foot.

mase is probably the biggest mistake as far as who they let go.
so many players do little after being let go but mase proved he was as productive
as ever.

the way they handled godfrey possibly did the most damage between the team and the players.

[Mike McFan]

Dumbest mistake?

Picking VY in the draft, sticking it in the Txean's eye was all Bud had in mind with that move, they should have traded down a couple spots, took Cutler. I said it then and and am still saying it. I like VY, had and still have high hopes for him, but only time will tell if I am right or wrong.

Don't get me started on punkman, he is right up there with my statement above, except he killed himself with stupidity, much like Vick. You are who you hang with.

Good post !

[Mike McFan]

eddie is the one i see as their not having a choice.
he just really couldnt play any more with lack of stability in the foot.

mase is probably the biggest mistake as far as who they let go.
so many players do little after being let go but mase proved he was as productive
as ever.

the way they handled godfrey possibly did the most damage between the team and the players.

Derrick Mason is an A** !
Sc@#@ Him !:slap

[Titans and Turtles]

I respect your list. I just do not think Albert gave the team much choice really. Everyone wanted to keep him but at that price? I think that would have made things hard on the rest of the team. :)

They didn't make an honest effort of trying to sign him last year. I was one of several who said if they franchise him (which they did), then he was absolutely gone after the season (he was).

Signing Albert this off-season would have taken ridiculous money given what the Redskins gave him. But stepping up to the plate and actually prying Bud's checkbook out of his hands last off-season might have gotten us Big Al for something less than ridiculous.

But we don't pay stars. We lock up people before they're really big (like finnegan), and develop them as stars. But when it comes time to dish out a big contract, that's just not us.

As soon as Finnegan and Chris Johnson's contracts are up, if they are both still as good or better than they are now, they are gone. G-O-N-E, book it, count on it, bank on it, write it stone.

[Orca]

Orca's opinion should be familiar to all.....

[Sect309Fan]

But we don't pay stars. We lock up people before they're really big (like finnegan), and develop them as stars. But when it comes time to dish out a big contract, that's just not us.

As soon as Finnegan and Chris Johnson's contracts are up, if they are both still as good or better than they are now, they are gone. G-O-N-E, book it, count on it, bank on it, write it stone.

So McNair, George, Eddie, and Bulluck aren't stars? :huh

The Titans keep their stars. Haynesworth was the exception, not the rule.

[Mike McFan]

They didn't make an honest effort of trying to sign him last year. I was one of several who said if they franchise him (which they did), then he was absolutely gone after the season (he was).

Signing Albert this off-season would have taken ridiculous money given what the Redskins gave him. But stepping up to the plate and actually prying Bud's checkbook out of his hands last off-season might have gotten us Big Al for something less than ridiculous.

But we don't pay stars. We lock up people before they're really big (like finnegan), and develop them as stars. But when it comes time to dish out a big contract, that's just not us.

As soon as Finnegan and Chris Johnson's contracts are up, if they are both still as good or better than they are now, they are gone. G-O-N-E, book it, count on it, bank on it, write it stone.

I agree that this has been our M.O.:sad

[Nintova]

Not drafting any WR that has remotely been productive when we could have had them ( Randy Moss anyone ? :) )

Seriously, getting into DEEP Cap trouble necessitating the exodus of talent I see as the worst mistake on our part.